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#208824 - 12/03/05 05:15 PM Re: Toughest MA Actor [Re: SubZero]
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I heard two stories, one was that LeBell lamped seagal one and Segal said he wasn't ready, whereby LeBelle did it again.

Second story is that LeBelle put him to sleep in a way that he filled his pants (Segal, that is) and left him sleeping in a wardrobe.

I'll reitterate Dolph Lundgren. Apparently was a serious Kyokoshinkai competitor at one time.
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#208825 - 12/03/05 08:44 PM Re: Toughest MA Actor [Re: trevek]
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trevek, my sensei told me the second version. About the...self-defecation and what not. lol
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#208826 - 12/04/05 06:20 AM Re: Toughest MA Actor [Re: SubZero]
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Apparently it was why LeBelle never worked on a Segal film again.
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#208827 - 12/04/05 09:26 AM Re: Toughest MA Actor [Re: trevek]
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I'll reitterate Dolph Lundgren. Apparently was a serious Kyokoshinkai competitor at one time.




if you watch his film showdown in little tokyo he shows off his skills a lot. its also worth buying just to see the ten second clip where he woefully looks into the camera remembering his dead parents but looks ridiculous because of his cross eyes lol.
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#208828 - 12/04/05 03:34 PM Re: Toughest MA Actor [Re: trevek]
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I heard two stories, one was that LeBell lamped seagal one and Segal said he wasn't ready, whereby LeBelle did it again.

Second story is that LeBelle put him to sleep in a way that he filled his pants (Segal, that is) and left him sleeping in a wardrobe.





My understanding is that this happened during the filming of 'Under Siege' and was the product of Segall shooting his mouth off in the mA press (magazines and whatnot). As i recall, he issued an open challenge to 'the old guard', such as La Belle, Norris, Bob Wall, Urquidez etc. As I recall he said he would give any of them who beat him $1000 dollars. Guess La Belle needed some stake money
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#208829 - 12/04/05 04:08 PM Re: Toughest MA Actor [Re: Cord]
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Wasn't that Bob Wall's "Dirty Dozen"?'Hina Matsuri' Segal had said he didn&#261;t like Chuck Norris films and Bob wall accussed him of dissing Chuck. Wall then offered Segal out and Segal said something like only fighting to the death (allegedly), whereupon Wall got a load of names (apparently without many of these guys knowing what was really going on) and said he had a list of 12 guys who'd fight segal to the death.

LeBelle has spoken about the dirty dozen thing as costing him a lot of money through lost work.

I'd heard the knock-out came after segal (allegedly) had been throwing his weight around with stuntmen. LeBelle has not spoken of the incident, himself.
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#208830 - 01/15/06 01:06 AM Re: Toughest MA Actor [Re: trevek]
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There are a few that come to mind.

Micheal Jai White (Spawn, Kill Bill vol.2, Universal Solider 2). He holds a black belt in I think 6 different forms of Karate and he's built like a friggin truck.

Jackie Chan because he's still doing his own stunts and he's in his 50s.

And of course Bruce Lee. He comes to mind coz The martial arts was his life. In real life and the characters he played the line between actor and person was blurred.
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#208831 - 01/15/06 08:03 AM Re: Toughest MA Actor [Re: tao_majick]
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Are we forgetting Tony Jaa?

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#208832 - 01/15/06 08:06 AM Re: Toughest MA Actor [Re: tao_majick]
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There are a few that come to mind.

Micheal Jai White (Spawn, Kill Bill vol.2, Universal Solider 2). He holds a black belt in I think 6 different forms of Karate and he's built like a friggin truck.




Neither fact indicates that he is a functional or durable fighter

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Jackie Chan because he's still doing his own stunts and he's in his 50s.




Agreed

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And of course Bruce Lee. He comes to mind coz The martial arts was his life. In real life and the characters he played the line between actor and person was blurred.




No they werent. They have become so through years of manipulation and distortion of image by people in a position to profit from his larger than life posthumous reputation. There is no doubt in my mind that he was a great MAist, but evidence of his real confrontation skill is anecdotal at best, and fanciful at worst.
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#208833 - 01/15/06 10:33 PM Re: Toughest MA Actor [Re: Cord]
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We seem to have more votes for Jackie Chan than anyone. I guess he wins!!!!
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