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#208627 - 11/29/05 02:09 PM Re: fasting [Re: BrianS]
Mandolynn Offline

Registered: 02/26/05
Posts: 195
Loc: Wisconsin, USA

Forcing yourself to go without food is illogical. Your body will fight it and eventually win. There are some weird people out there with weird ideals. I saw a woman on 'wife swap' that stands outside naked staring at the sun to gain nutrients. She believed it is the cure for world hunger! Her family didn't cook anything and basically lived off of salad and birdseed. They all looked terribly unhealthy!
Food,it does a body good.

You mean you've never heard of the mutant plant people who live off vitamin D????
My bladed nunchucks are super sweet.

#208628 - 11/29/05 02:16 PM Wife swap? [Re: Mandolynn]
harlan Offline
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Registered: 07/31/04
Posts: 6665
Loc: Amherst, MA
Boy, I really have to read...less.

#208629 - 11/29/05 03:50 PM Re: Wife swap? [Re: harlan]
Dereck Offline

Registered: 10/04/04
Posts: 10415
Loc: Great White North
Going through the Main Index and what do I see with Harlan's name beside it ... "Wife Swap". Why did I immediately click on this?

#208630 - 11/30/05 12:02 AM Re: Wife swap? [Re: Dereck]
chickenchaser Offline

Registered: 10/29/05
Posts: 204
Loc: Auburn,New York,U.S.A.
i "fast" every night while i sleep!!!! but i break it every morning
"The early bird gets the worm, but the bird in a hurry only gets half of one." --- Sensei Corey

#208631 - 11/30/05 12:14 AM Re: Wife swap? [Re: Dereck]
phoenixsflame Offline

Registered: 11/12/05
Posts: 402
Loc: Chicago, Illinois

Going through the Main Index and what do I see with Harlan's name beside it ... "Wife Swap". Why did I immediately click on this?

The same reason I did...

Hot MA on MA action.

Seriously though, I have to join the contingent with the whole "starving is bad for you, it does nothing good for your body" group... I'm not saying there aren't reasons people do it (All spiritual/religious) that are faith based and should be respected. I'm saying, as a way to help heal the body and clense it. Try tea. Tea has some great antioxidents, I love tea. Everyone loves tea. My son loves tea... He's two. He says Hi... Well he would if he wasn't sleeping. And he doesn't fast either. See?

Makes perfect sense.
While everything changes, nothing is truly lost.

#208632 - 11/30/05 12:16 AM Re: Wife swap? [Re: phoenixsflame]
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{looks around, doesn't see harlan, leaves.}

#208633 - 12/03/05 02:27 PM Re: Wife swap? [Re: Ed_Morris]
Subedei Offline

Registered: 12/23/04
Posts: 479
I don't see how fasting is all that bad. I don't think there's a lot of research on it at all though, pro or con.

It's medically proven (As much as anything is scientifically proven) that the human body accumulates various particles of negative effect. In fact, it's recommended men over a certain age give blood regularly as a means of reducing the buildup of PCB's/heavy metals in the blood. So yeah, toxins definitally build up in the body. 15 lbs though? 15 lbs of what exactly? I think 15 lbs of most lasting blood bodily contaminates would kill you.

I don't know of any research that's proven fasting helps clean the body, I also don't know of any studies that disprove it. I'm willing to give it the benefit of the doubt considering there really aren't any negatives that I can see.

Fasting without some kind of nuitrion certainly seems like a terrible idea. Who advocates this?

When I fast(Which is quite rare, every few years maybe) I usually survive on lemonade. 2 Tbs lemon joice and 2 Tbs maple syrup in 1 quart of water - Adequate nuitrition in easily digestable form. I avoid any any real excersize and pretty much just relax for a few days. I haven't noticed any negative side effects, any loss of muscle mass I haven't noticed.

#208634 - 12/03/05 03:34 PM Re: Wife swap? [Re: Subedei]
Cord Offline

Registered: 01/13/05
Posts: 11399
Loc: Cambridge UK.
On what planet does a spoon of maple syrup in water constitute 'adequate nutrition'?
i would strongly urge anyone considering the activity of fasting to read Laff's post, mine, and the others who raise the dangers of self starvation for 'health'.
If anyone can provide links to genuine medical research that proves starvation to be beneficial for normal healthy humans then please do so. Advocating fasting 'because you like it' yourself is irresponsible and dangerous. I feel my first thread lock coming on.....
Don't let the door hit ya' where the good lord split ya'

#208635 - 12/03/05 04:58 PM Re: Wife swap? [Re: Cord]
gojuwarrior Offline

Registered: 11/17/05
Posts: 82
Loc: New Jeresy,U.S.A
Read the forum rules. This is NOT a place for religious discussion.

Edited by laf7773 (12/03/05 09:03 PM)
Truth is relationship with the opponent,living,moving,never static.

#208636 - 12/03/05 10:11 PM Re: fasting [Re: gojuwarrior]
White_Fox Offline

Registered: 11/09/05
Posts: 57
Fasting can be very beneficial for your body to "clean house", A lot of people in western culture are very weary of fasting. But ancient cultures have been fasting for thousands of years.

What it all comes down to is "the proof is in the pudding". I have fasted and know many people who have fasted therefore I know from my personal experience that it works. Many friends of mine have done the master cleanse (lemonade diet) by Stanley Burroughs and one friend of mine said after the third day you are not even thinking about food and have soo much energy. The reason for the energy is your body has all of that energy that it uses to digest solid food free to use. But on a one day fast you may not feel this way.

I would recommend a juice fast the first time because it is much easier on your system. Plus the juice helps your body deal easier with the toxins being released from your organs etc.

Of course before you do your fast read a bunch of literature on it and plan out your "battle plan" Therefore you know what to expect.

One great benefit of fasting is time seems to slow down and a more humble attitude is cultivated since you are controlling your body's desires. And when you do eat again you are much more grateful for your food that comes in.

And when done your fast you will be very sensitive to your food coming in. Try to eat good food as opposed to lots of food and you will have more energy because you are giving your body more efficient fuel.

As for training try not to do too much strenuous activity on your first fast take this time to slow things down, do some stretches, go for walks in nature take this time to cleans and rejuvenate. Also don't engage in ual during fasting it will suck your vital energy out of you.

You can even go to a naturopathic doctor or holistic nutritionists and do the fast with them for safety and guidance.

Hope I helped a bit.

All the best
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