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#203916 - 11/17/05 01:18 PM Re: Full Tang Katana [Re: tsafa]
hedkikr Offline
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Registered: 02/28/05
Posts: 2827
Loc: Southern California, USA
(Disclaimer: I'm not a practitioner of the sword arts)

That said, when I happened to notice the subject line "Full Tang Katana", I had to peek. I've never heard of an authentic full-tang katana. If this is a better design, I suspect that the sword smiths of ancient Japan would have used it. Remember lives, not photo ops, were @ risk.

This guy looks like a younger John Lovitz & I can hear him in my immagination ("Yeah, I'm a sword expert, no...a Samurai. Yeah, thats right a real samurai & knight, Yeah, that's the ticket!").

Looks more like more like the make-believe, role-playing renaissance faire types who talk w/ fake British accents. Looks you sword guys have your share of posers, just like karate.

owari

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#203917 - 11/17/05 03:18 PM Re: Full Tang Katana [Re: tsafa]
Walter Wong Offline
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Registered: 12/09/04
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I tend to take the reviews of experience practitioners of Japanese sword arts of specific Japanese and Japanese styled swords more seriously than with the individuals not involved with legitimate training under proper instruction of the Japanese sword arts.

People not involved with legitimate Japanese sword art practice have no basis for reviewing what's makes a decent or good Japanese styled sword.

If I'm gonna buy a great race car or need a review on a type of race car, I'll go the NASCAR drivers opinions and not the lil thug wannabees racing on the city streets in their Honda Civic thinking they look like The Fast And Furious movie.
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#203918 - 11/17/05 04:32 PM Re: Full Tang Katana [Re: Walter Wong]
Charles Mahan Offline
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Registered: 06/14/04
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It's entirely possible that he meant Full tang to mean it has something other than a rat tail. He probably didn't mean it went literally all the way to the very tip end of the tsuka.

Terminology is important, but new folks don't always get it dead on. Benefit of the doubt would seem to be in order on that point.
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#203919 - 11/17/05 04:57 PM Re: Full Tang Katana [Re: Charles Mahan]
phoenixsflame Offline
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Registered: 11/12/05
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Loc: Chicago, Illinois
Quote:

It's entirely possible that he meant Full tang to mean it has something other than a rat tail. He probably didn't mean it went literally all the way to the very tip end of the tsuka.

Terminology is important, but new folks don't always get it dead on. Benefit of the doubt would seem to be in order on that point.




Thats exactly what he meant. Did you take a look at the review/photo's of the sword. It is literally a Full Tang, the entire grip is squared and the tang goes fully to the base of the hilt. But, that aside.


It really is hard to find good weapons that are not in the thousands of dollars range. I was lucky enough to be given an Iaito, so I have not technically searched to purchase a live steal Katana. Since we've begun speaking of it, does anyone have any suggestions?
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#203920 - 11/17/05 05:14 PM Re: Full Tang Katana [Re: phoenixsflame]
Walter Wong Offline
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Registered: 12/09/04
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For actual shinken (sharp steel Japanese styled swords):

www.bugei.com

www.swordstore.com (you have to look for the category "steel Iaito that cuts) or shinken made by Japanese smiths if you want a nihonto.

These 2 are my personal favorites when shopping for live blade or Iaito.

This is another good option:
http://www.atrimasa.com/Japaneseswords.html
I got to handle the Sukehiro model last May. Their swords are definite user swords.
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#203921 - 12/05/05 03:10 PM Re: Full Tang Katana [Re: noobsamurai]
mudobudo Offline
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Registered: 12/03/05
Posts: 28
Actually 1065 and 1070 make better sword steels, better yet is 5160 but pricier, however it is a superb alloy steel and one of the best in my opinion for sword making. Stainless, yes I agree, stay away from it for swords. I mean, if your just going to cut air, be my guest, but anything else, no. Now truth be told lets not pidgeon hole everything made in China, Taiwan, or Pakistan, well Pakistan maybe. Thier blade have a horrible reputation for a reason after all, Howeevr there is always ane exception to that rule. Had a blade when I was young that beat, chopped, flexed, cut hardwood, and chopped the living, well you know out of everything. I could not get it to bend for the life of me and stay bent, and it help and edge like you would not believe. Turns out if was made in Pakistan. Still have it by the way, 20 years later. Point is, that one should keep an opn mind, but be very aware of where it comes from, and the reputation of that countries swords. had I known then what I know now, would not have beat around with that blade, but looking at it now it is fine with few visible blemishes. Skilled smith made it, I got lucky really. Now, as for stainless, bad metal for swords, gotta agree. this is not to say that in small amount chromium can not impmrove a swords strength, sometimes it can, but 17 percent chrome, which is the average amount for the 400 series blades, umm, no, thats way too much. The full tang blade you speak og. Very broad blade, likely won't break. The grip though, well, full tangs can work, and well, but not with wood, but laminate grips. the slapping two pieces of wood on and riveting them can lead to exploding grip upon contact, no thanks. While softer steels like this are less likely to break in some instances, why risk it. I agree with what someone said, get yourself a good sword for the money you put into a lot of crappy ones, it ain't quantity but quality that counts. Later.

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#203922 - 12/05/05 05:02 PM Re: Full Tang Katana [Re: mudobudo]
V34 Offline
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Registered: 04/27/05
Posts: 97
Loc: USA
Ha, ha, ha!!!

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#203923 - 12/06/05 09:00 AM Re: Full Tang Katana [Re: V34]
V34 Offline
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Registered: 04/27/05
Posts: 97
Loc: USA
This thread [censored] me off!! THIS IN NOO WAY SHOULD BE CALLED
A KATANA!! PERIOD!! It is 440 SS crap and should never be
used for anything. If I walked into my dojo with this piece
I would be told to either, leave, throw out the sword in the
garbage or go grab my bokken. This guy has NO idea about
sword arts or what a sword is!!! PATHETIC!!

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#203924 - 12/06/05 10:13 AM Re: Full Tang Katana [Re: tsafa]
schanne Offline
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Registered: 02/18/04
Posts: 4370
Loc: Woodbury NJ
Are those panties hanging in the background all over the hatchets? Sorry dude but I have to laugh at your entire post and photo's, your a nut!

http://mysite.verizon.net/tsafa1/pell/index.htm
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#203925 - 12/06/05 10:39 AM Re: Full Tang Katana [Re: schanne]
V34 Offline
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Registered: 04/27/05
Posts: 97
Loc: USA
Psycho! Nutjob. For sure! Is this guy really serious?

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