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#20301 - 05/15/04 11:05 PM Re: Was Bruce Lee a fighter? And did he make JKD to actually be a fighting art?
Uriel Offline
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the only dead man I see getting more attention than bruce lee is jesus.

thank you for my daily larf

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#20302 - 05/16/04 04:20 AM Re: Was Bruce Lee a fighter? And did he make JKD to actually be a fighting art?
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Uriel, Jesus isnt dead [IMG]http://www.fightingarts.com/forums/ubb/wink.gif[/IMG]

just had to say that

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#20303 - 05/16/04 09:02 AM Re: Was Bruce Lee a fighter? And did he make JKD to actually be a fighting art?
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Neither is Bruce apparently...

-John

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#20304 - 05/16/04 09:12 AM Re: Was Bruce Lee a fighter? And did he make JKD to actually be a fighting art?
Ender Offline
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Registered: 04/29/03
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Of course he isn't!

He's right up there with Elvis and John F. in space.

Duh!


lol.


-Dan

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#20305 - 05/16/04 11:44 AM Re: Was Bruce Lee a fighter? And did he make JKD to actually be a fighting art?
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by JKogas:
Question EVERYTHING!


-John
[/QUOTE]
http://www.tommycarruthers.com/video.htm
back on line and bandwitch problem sorted
"Rock on tommy" a taste of what JKD "bruce fighting system".

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#20306 - 05/16/04 11:48 AM Re: Was Bruce Lee a fighter? And did he make JKD to actually be a fighting art?
pete Offline
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http://www.tommycarruthers.com/video.htm
back on line bandwitch problem sorted "Rock on tommy". A taste of what JKD "bruce fighting methods" can accomplish.

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#20307 - 05/16/04 11:56 AM Re: Was Bruce Lee a fighter? And did he make JKD to actually be a fighting art?
Uriel Offline
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by pete:
http://www.tommycarruthers.com/video.htm
back on line bandwitch problem sorted "Rock on tommy". A taste of what JKD "bruce fighting methods" can accomplish.
[/QUOTE]

Just incase Pete's continual double posting didn't get the message through. I, out of the kindness of my heart, will post it a third time.

:: wonders if Pete suffers from Houghes Syndrome... ::

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#20308 - 05/17/04 09:31 AM Re: Was Bruce Lee a fighter? And did he make JKD to actually be a fighting art?
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by JohnL:
Would I learn from someone I could beat. Certainly.

He may be better than me at some things, and I at others. As such I have no problem learning from him.

Also, look at boxers. All the best boxers learn from people they can beat. They have trainers they can beat, sparring partners they can beat etc.

Seems like people provide quotes with a slight bias to justify their own arguments.

JohnL

[/QUOTE]


i agree with this. you can always learn something from someone if you look hard enough and listen intently. whether i train for a fight or just train, i spar and train with people of many levels and we always learn from each other. for example, i often spar with a guy who has a longer fight record then mine and who is a better technical figher than me, but my hands are better and he is scared of my push kick. he learns from me when we train even though he is a better all round MT fighter than me, and i certainly learn from training with him. dont discount what other people can teach you.
i also agree with MuayThai when he said that training and fighting are totally different. training is not the same as fighting. except for very experienced fighters, in the ring adrenaline goes way up and technique degenerates. i find that the more fight experience a person has, the more practical and effective their training methods.

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#20309 - 06/01/04 05:45 PM Re: Was Bruce Lee a fighter? And did he make JKD to actually be a fighting art?
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Bruce definetly could fight, to say he could not is absurd. Anyone who is described to have that much power, timing, speed and knowledge can fight.

He does have 4-5 recorded fights..

Quotes from james demile - bruce lee's student:

"I was a heavyweight boxer in the Air Force. Over a four year period I had over a hundred fights and never lost one. I had a very big ego and perceived myself as the toughtest man alive. I was 5ft 10inches and weighted 225. I could knock a man out with either hand. Then I met a small 135 lb 5 ft 7 kid who believed his martial arts could beat anyone. I decided to explain the reality of fighting to him and proceded to show him what street fighting was all about. Needless to say I learned humility in about 5 seconds. He not only stopped me cold, but tied me up in such a way that he could hit me at will and the only thing I could do about it was... nothing. Later I reviewed all my previous skills, including boxing and threw all of it out as it was impractical against Bruce's skills. "

"So far as what people do not ask, I find people do not seem to understand the difference between a fight and a tournament. People always seem to make their questions relate to the the martial arts side of Bruce rather than the fighting side. I wish they would explore the realistic side of Bruce's skill in the street, rather than compare him to tournament fighters. I read some of the comments by Joe Lewis and he always compared Bruce to the martial arts image that everyone saw and yet the Bruce that I knew would have blown Joe Lewis, Chuck Norris and anyone else for that matter that acquired their reputation by playing the game of tournaments. "

"Most of the answers are from people who either did not know him or related their answer how Bruce would have done in a tournament. Joe Lewis is very out front with his comments and yet he always compares Bruce to either his tournament days or some world champion. I really enjoy meeting these people and always look forward to giving my opinion on why Bruce was the best street fighter I ever knew. Not pound for pound, but against anyone in a street fight. I was never in a tournament and had many street fights and I have never seen anyone that I would have been scared to fight, regardless of their Belts and trophies. This goes for UFC and K1. I'm not saying I could beat all of them, I am just saying they are tough, but so what. People do not understand what Bruce did in a real fight. They relate his skills to the movies or JKD. No, that was martial arts. Fighting is survival. It is mean, ugly and stupid and someone can reall be hurt or killed. Bruce knew he could be hurt if he got hit, that is why he believed a street fight should not last over two seconds and his personal skills were designed for that attitde. I am very opinionated and willing to discuss with anyone my belief in why Bruce was the best fighter I ever knew. And I still feel that way, 42 years later. "

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#20310 - 06/01/04 07:00 PM Re: Was Bruce Lee a fighter? And did he make JKD to actually be a fighting art?
Isshinryukid4life Offline
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Registered: 12/07/03
Posts: 2455
Loc: Knoxville.
If you wanna see bruse lee fight,Go here http://www.funnyjunk.com/pages/bruce.htm BTW Wait for the video to load.

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