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#202167 - 11/25/05 09:26 PM Re: MIRRORS [Re: eyrie]
Ed_Morris Offline
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Didn't anyone think to read the thread?

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#202168 - 11/25/05 11:38 PM Re: MIRRORS [Re: Ed_Morris]
eyrie Offline
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No, I'm just an igoramus. What makes you think I would bother to read it?

You're supposed to tape it so if it does shatter, at least the tape would hold most of the shards together.

I guess the point is moot now... but I would have taped it and used a glass/diamond cutter and cut it into smaller sections before attempting to pry it off the wall.

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#202169 - 11/25/05 11:40 PM Re: MIRRORS [Re: eyrie]
Ed_Morris Offline
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{sigh} from about 1 page back:
Quote:

before you smash it...which it sounds likely you'll have to do...cover it with duct tape. that way, the shards won't go flying everywhere.

best I can come up with...good luck.




and apparently he did just that except instead of cracking it into peices, it came crashing down and tore thru the tape luckily not injuring anyone.

theres the summary for you, so you don't have to read the whole thread, Mr Lazy.

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#202170 - 02/11/06 11:43 AM Re: MIRRORS [Re: Ronin1966]
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Hello:

A new twist on an old thread. Anyone who has installed a mirror/s (or some mirror substitute) what did you use and how did you go about it?

Consider... is it necessary to get floor to ceiling "mirror"? Or do you mount it at a certain height (?)and the ~extra~ mirror while nice would be unnecessary both technically and financially. What do you do to mount the mirror? Track or no track?

Again glass, dangerous... but I'm curious for those who HAVE done so, how did you come to the conclusions that you did re: installing your mirror... size, type, material, finish, protective measures concerning it (ie prevent shattering), etc.

Now being truly "reflective"....
J

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#202171 - 02/11/06 01:25 PM Re: MIRRORS [Re: Ronin1966]
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Ronin, can only give you what I have expierenced over the years at different dojo's, take it for what it's worth. There isn't a substitute for real mirrors, don't install them yourself since they are usually guranteed by the manufacture if they have the correct instalation rep.There are different types, thicknesses and backings that are taken into concideration for a MA dojo too. We just had a new dojo built last year and the mirror company came out to install an entire wall of six foot mirror, one foot off the ground by forty feet long. I'm glad it wasn't me that had to install the mirrors because they had all kinds of equipment and special types of clips and back pads that helped support the mirror. Now i know what your going to say, the money right well it came out of the loan for the dojo so it was part of the financing. Yeah they are expensive but it is something that has to be done absolutely perfect or they look like crap and you could have a big liability problem if someone gets hurt. As I always say, ALTHOUGH.... we did install some left over mirrors at my home dojo that another MA school budy gave me since he was upgrading. They were six foot by four footers, we hunge them one foot off the floor with regular old mirror clamps and spaced them out...so far so good but for a commercial establishment I would use a professional installer.
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#202172 - 02/15/06 10:46 AM Re: MIRRORS [Re: schanne]
Ronin1966 Offline
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Hello Schanne:

Having had my (throat clearing sound) ~recent experience~ I too better understand the need for profesional installation... heck, I knew it before I made my hopeful "attempt".

But, there are an awful lot of smaller mirrors, mirror pieces and mirror like materials out there.... As such
I was very curious (hopeful) if any other list members had done their own?!?! As to the mirror that you did have installed, do you remember if you went with the thicker mirror, or one of the special "safety mirrors"??? I cannot imagine "requiring" either per se, as the "target" is never, ever the mirror. But they do make the stuff for somebody to use... Was the one foot business happenstance or was there a "why" for it? Thank you for indulging my curiousity...

<Listening sheepishly>
J

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#202173 - 02/15/06 04:39 PM Re: MIRRORS [Re: Ronin1966]
schanne Offline
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Why have safety glass? It shatters (hardly, takes allot if installed correctly) but when it does break it's like auto glaas, it shatters into small cubed pieces vs. hunks of gullotine like blades slashing anything in two on it's free fall.

The one foot space below is for dojo that have the matt mounted agaisnt the wall. Our is this way and that space is a wreck from people kicking it by accident, grapplers pushing off the wall to get leverage. Yup that space has so many patches it's ridiculous....therefore I'm padding the entire space below the mirror with the same foam and cover that on our floor, it will look nice too.

The thickness was 1/4

The mirrors were call "shatter proof mirrors" ?
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