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#198460 - 10/30/05 05:38 PM Re: Throwing Big Guys [Re: BigRod]
RobNus Offline
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Quote:

Right...

I know I have a lot of progress to make in terms of tehnique and everything else, but you aren't honestly saying that weight and size makes no difference. It does.




if he is resisting, sure his wieght matters. but if he is compliant (as you said), then it shouldn't matter a sparrows fart. once you actually try some of the things suggested here, and try to make em work for you, then you can move on to trying to throw yer mate while he is resisting.
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#198461 - 10/30/05 06:42 PM Re: Throwing Big Guys [Re: RobNus]
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if he is resisting, sure his wieght matters.




If he is resisting it is easy to set him off balance, by pushing and pulling.....so again if the difference is not great (twice your body weight), then it wont make a difference.

*bows respectfully*
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#198462 - 10/31/05 02:36 PM Re: Throwing Big Guys [Re: h2whoa]
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If he is resisting it is easy to set him off balance, by pushing and pulling.....so again if the difference is not great (twice your body weight), then it wont make a difference.

*bows respectfully*




Easy to say, but i know myself that its not always so. i am a big guy (6ft, 220 lbs), and if i do not want to be thrown, i will use my weight to make it very hard for someone to throw me. someone who does aikido, tai chi or the like will know how to carry their weight so as to make themselves "immoveable".

if you can keep him off balance, however, then he should be easy enough to throw. but only if you have practice. as with everything, i spose...
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#198463 - 10/31/05 04:55 PM Re: Throwing Big Guys [Re: RobNus]
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This is were your training applies, If you train for it, in stages, using push pull techniques, it is very possible!!

*bows respectfully*
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#198464 - 10/31/05 05:46 PM Re: Throwing Big Guys [Re: h2whoa]
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If it is excecuted properly, his weight should make no difference.




*rolls eyes*

Says the 130kg weightlifter.
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#198465 - 10/31/05 07:36 PM Re: Throwing Big Guys [Re: MattJ]
h2whoa Offline
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Quote:

Quote:

If it is excecuted properly, his weight should make no difference.




*rolls eyes*

Says the 130kg weightlifter.




LOL, What are you trying to say matt!!!!!!

seriously, there is alot more to throwing a person than simply lining up and bending. There are small things you can do to help your opponent along. While I wouldnt recommend anything other than leg sweeps for taking on the 130kg weightlifters, unless of course if you are a 140kg weightlifter than go for gold my friend. Learn your proper technique, learn you alignment, learn how to offset his balance, getting them off balance and in the air is 80% of the battle! Once the are there all you need to do is slam them home!
By the way Matt, i started when I was 9, there were lots of times that I was the smaller guy, my sensei told me that it didnt make a lick of difference, I believed him then, I believe it now.... I never had a problem, and the small guys in our dojo dont either! Its mental as much as physical!

*bows respectfully*
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#198466 - 10/31/05 07:38 PM Re: Throwing Big Guys [Re: BigRod]
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o- soto- gari perhaps? perhaps if one would like to research a Japanese gentle man named MASAHIKO KIMURA 5 foot 6 inches
who weighed in at app 85kg but threw and won against top fighters 100kg plus and some what taller ? including (so I read) one of the Gracies? perhaps scroll through the judo web pages and try to find others with the same fighting methods?(research) Most top fighters studied other fighters who were good ???????(study) i spend hours training and studying??and with the internet it is a lot easier for people today???? perhaps research brings results??(study)
does one think???????http://
judoinfo.com/animate.htm how to perhaps?????
http://judoinfo.com/kimura.htm this gentle man perhaps??????? research, study analise practice automate and add to ones technique then automate in differant scenarios,,,, sparr apply further research study analise automate practice keep going man keep going...

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#198467 - 10/31/05 09:21 PM Re: Throwing Big Guys [Re: NEAS]
Paranormalma Offline
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Registered: 06/28/05
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If your instructor asked you to throw Ogoshi, you would use Osoto Gari?

Maybe just a misread though...

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#198468 - 11/01/05 04:24 AM Re: Throwing Big Guys [Re: h2whoa]
RobNus Offline
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This is were your training applies, If you train for it, in stages, using push pull techniques, it is very possible!!

*bows respectfully*




but this guy cant throw his partner in regular training, when he is compliant. he wrote on here to ask for ways to do it, not to have people tell him that his weight should make no difference, etc etc. his partner's weight matters now, because he cant seem to throw him properly. but once he has the technique down to a tee, his weight as you said, should not matter.

*reciprocates respectful bow*
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#198469 - 11/01/05 05:19 AM Re: Throwing Big Guys [Re: RobNus]
h2whoa Offline
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I said in my first post that he should check his technique, not having seen him excecute, I cant advise him, but he should check his alignment and entry into the throw, I found that this is where I faced most of my problems.

*reciprocates the reciprocate respectful bow*
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