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#197077 - 10/24/05 10:46 PM Tenth Level Black Belt
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Registered: 05/12/05
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Loc: new haven, CT, USA
Didnt the last remaining holder of the rank "Tenth Don" die recently? If so, what does this mean for TKD?

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#197078 - 10/24/05 11:14 PM Re: Tenth Level Black Belt [Re: elmcityslim]
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There are a few left in my town. There are also 14 or 15 world champions.

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#197079 - 10/25/05 12:55 AM Re: Tenth Level Black Belt [Re: elmcityslim]
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My grandmaster was recently awarded his 10th dan. On September 10th, I believe.
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#197080 - 10/25/05 07:31 PM Re: Tenth Level Black Belt [Re: elmcityslim]
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Hi Guy's
I dont know where a tenth degree rank came from. Traditional Taekwondo has only 9 degree's of black belt this applies for both of the main systems (ITF/WTF). Indeed General Choi who created modern (ITF) Taekwondo died a a 9th degree grandmaster. 10th dan just dont sound right.

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#197081 - 10/25/05 08:38 PM Re: Tenth Level Black Belt [Re: Welsh Dragon]
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WTF does have a 10th Dan.
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#197082 - 10/25/05 08:41 PM Re: Tenth Level Black Belt [Re: Welsh Dragon]
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there is such thing but it is extremely rare. most people die before they reach such a rank
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#197083 - 10/25/05 09:18 PM Re: Tenth Level Black Belt [Re: tkdkid5282]
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Registered: 10/22/05
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In my organization there are 9 degrees of black. The 10th dan is the headmaster, there can only be one 10th dan at a time in my organization.
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#197084 - 10/26/05 12:12 AM Re: Tenth Level Black Belt [Re: Welsh Dragon]
spectrum Offline
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Registered: 05/05/05
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Loc: montana
The ITF has 9th degree as GM

Our very own TKD tenth degree BB came to visit recently for a belt test for my instructors. When asked, the wise old man said "shucks I got 10 strips same as GM Rhee and I an't a GM". The high DAN board voted so be it.

Leo,
You might enjoy knowing that he is also a proud white belt in JJ. Good company!

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#197085 - 10/26/05 05:02 PM Re: Tenth Level Black Belt [Re: spectrum]
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Registered: 02/27/05
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Loc: Baltimore, Maryland, USA
From what I understand Jhoon Rhee is a 10th Dan, however on the Kukkiwon website there are listings from 2002 of all the WTF black belts ranging from 1st-10th Dan with there being only 5 10th Dans. Out of curiosity does Jhoon Rhee associate himself with WTF because I'm kind of confused wiht what type of TKD I do..for instance we do WTF forms (we associate with WTF) but we dont spar like them. Any difference?
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#197086 - 10/26/05 05:13 PM Re: Tenth Level Black Belt [Re: TKDGuy]
Dereck Offline
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I wonder how accurate this is? ( http://www.kukkiwon.or.kr/eng/promotion/yudanja.asp?div=5 )

I personally know of one 7th, one 6, some 5's and so on. Drastical drop from 5th to 6th. But I also understand that (1) the higher you go they are awarded for service, (2) how many degrees you are doesn't make you a better martial artist and (3) that many reach level and stay at that level as they are more interested in training, teaching, etc. Another notch on their belt doesn't make them any better.

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