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#196429 - 10/24/05 11:33 AM Re: Knife to the throat from the back. [Re: ShikataGaNai]
globetrotter Offline
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Registered: 01/10/05
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if he knows what he is doing, he won't get that close to you with the gun

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#196430 - 10/24/05 01:29 PM Re: Knife to the throat from the back. [Re: SANCHIN31]
ShikataGaNai Offline
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If he has a knife at your throat and you go to grab your throat is slit. If it's a gun your head is blown off. Try it with a watergun,you'll get wet.






That being said, does this mean there really is no way to do this? without controlling the arm first, you have no escape and will definitely get cut. i agree that negotiation is the foremost method of difusing this situation, but if someone is intent on killing you, you might as well try to fight out of it. life or death and all...

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#196431 - 10/24/05 05:21 PM Re: Knife to the throat from the back. [Re: globetrotter]
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And that is the rub. Your only chance if he is intent on not leaving a witness is to hope he is close enough...otherwise run like heck if he has a gun. It is harder than most people think to hit a moving target.
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#196432 - 10/24/05 05:26 PM Re: Knife to the throat from the back. [Re: ShikataGaNai]
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Quote:

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If he has a knife at your throat and you go to grab your throat is slit. If it's a gun your head is blown off. Try it with a watergun,you'll get wet.






That being said, does this mean there really is no way to do this? without controlling the arm first, you have no escape and will definitely get cut. i agree that negotiation is the foremost method of difusing this situation, but if someone is intent on killing you, you might as well try to fight out of it. life or death and all...




It's not all that complicated and escape...just very risky. If he has a knife to your throat and he is going to kill you anyway...what is there to loose?

Negotiate if you can of course.


Edited by RangerG (10/24/05 09:49 PM)
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#196433 - 10/31/05 04:46 AM Re: Knife to the throat from the back. [Re: globetrotter]
Subedei Offline
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I think any deadly weapon defense assumes he's going to kill you anyway.

With that said, if someone has a gun to your head and you know it's at your head it's suprisingly easy to disarm him. Rapidly duck under the gun turning to the left(The gun should not be past your head), wrap your left arm around his and break his elbow with your palm (You've got his arm locked, the gun is pointing behind you), in the same motion palm heel him under the chin or to the bridge of the nose with your right hand. From this position he's stunned and has a broken arm, there are a great number of ways to immobilize him further.

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#196434 - 10/31/05 04:49 AM Re: Knife to the throat from the back. [Re: SANCHIN31]
Subedei Offline
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What about controlling the arm with both of your hands, delivering a head butt or stomp to the foot, or both, spinning around 180 and pushing the attacker into the wall. you're still in a very bad situation, but you've limited his options on movement - mainly that he can't drop back and take you to the ground. i'm not sure how you would escape the choke at that point, but if you indeed can there is nothing stopping you from executing the nike technique.
just don't forget to cancel your bank card if it's still in the ATM.




If he has a knife at your throat and you go to grab your throat is slit. If it's a gun your head is blown off. Try it with a watergun,you'll get wet.




I have tried disarms with a watergun, they work.

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#196435 - 10/31/05 10:11 AM Re: Knife to the throat from the back. [Re: Subedei]
JoelM Offline
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The waterguns or the disarms?

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#196436 - 10/31/05 10:17 AM Re: Knife to the throat from the back. [Re: JoelM]
RangerG Offline
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#196437 - 10/31/05 02:06 PM Re: Knife to the throat from the back. [Re: RangerG]
ShikataGaNai Offline
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if i could be invincible for a day, i'd simply turn around, stick my finger in the attacker's gun and smirk.

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#196438 - 10/31/05 08:37 PM Re: Knife to the throat from the back. [Re: ShikataGaNai]
RangerG Offline
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if i could be invincible for a day, i'd simply turn around, stick my finger in the attacker's gun and smirk.





I would rather turn around and finger strike both his eyes...then a massive groin kick...
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