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#196419 - 10/23/05 12:44 AM Knife to the throat from the back.
RangerG Offline
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One of the worst knife situations to be in. The escape? Much like the Forearm Choke from Behind. I discussed this in Martial Arts Talk, but would like to hear all your variations or alternate escapes.

I think of this as one of the ATM situations, much like a couple of the gun situations like gun to the back or back of the head..


Edited by RangerG (10/23/05 12:47 AM)
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#196420 - 10/23/05 07:32 AM Re: Knife to the throat from the back. [Re: RangerG]
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At that point : Gun to the back of the head or knife to the throat from behind, I wouldn't do anything but negotiate. If I'm holding the knife or gun,you're dead.
Do yall regularly practice this scenario as a part of self defense?
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#196421 - 10/23/05 08:50 AM Re: Knife to the throat from the back. [Re: SANCHIN31]
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At that point : Gun to the back of the head or knife to the throat from behind, I wouldn't do anything but negotiate. If I'm holding the knife or gun,you're dead.
Do yall regularly practice this scenario as a part of self defense?




Yes...along with a host of other disarms and escapes. If I were you, I would not be so sure I would be dead if you had the gun or knife my friend..

The Ranger is never more dangerous, than when he is "dead".. *snicker*
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#196422 - 10/23/05 08:53 AM Re: Knife to the throat from the back. [Re: RangerG]
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Quote:

Quote:

At that point : Gun to the back of the head or knife to the throat from behind, I wouldn't do anything but negotiate. If I'm holding the knife or gun,you're dead.
Do yall regularly practice this scenario as a part of self defense?




Yes...along with a host of other disarms and escapes. If I were you, I would not be so sure I would be dead if you had the gun or knife my friend..

The Ranger is never more dangerous, than when he is "dead".. *snicker*




HA! I'm the three battles MOTHER_JAMMER! BANG!
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#196423 - 10/23/05 09:51 AM Re: Knife to the throat from the back. [Re: RangerG]
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That is definitely as area I am very weak on. Weapons, especially close range like that.....very tough to deal with.
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#196424 - 10/23/05 12:52 PM Re: Knife to the throat from the back. [Re: MattJ]
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What about controlling the arm with both of your hands, delivering a head butt or stomp to the foot, or both, spinning around 180 and pushing the attacker into the wall. you're still in a very bad situation, but you've limited his options on movement - mainly that he can't drop back and take you to the ground. i'm not sure how you would escape the choke at that point, but if you indeed can there is nothing stopping you from executing the nike technique.
just don't forget to cancel your bank card if it's still in the ATM.

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#196425 - 10/23/05 01:51 PM Re: Knife to the throat from the back. [Re: ShikataGaNai]
SANCHIN31 Offline
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Quote:

What about controlling the arm with both of your hands, delivering a head butt or stomp to the foot, or both, spinning around 180 and pushing the attacker into the wall. you're still in a very bad situation, but you've limited his options on movement - mainly that he can't drop back and take you to the ground. i'm not sure how you would escape the choke at that point, but if you indeed can there is nothing stopping you from executing the nike technique.
just don't forget to cancel your bank card if it's still in the ATM.




If he has a knife at your throat and you go to grab your throat is slit. If it's a gun your head is blown off. Try it with a watergun,you'll get wet.
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#196426 - 10/23/05 07:44 PM Re: Knife to the throat from the back. [Re: SANCHIN31]
RangerG Offline
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Loc: Chester County, Pennsylvania
Quote:

Quote:

What about controlling the arm with both of your hands, delivering a head butt or stomp to the foot, or both, spinning around 180 and pushing the attacker into the wall. you're still in a very bad situation, but you've limited his options on movement - mainly that he can't drop back and take you to the ground. i'm not sure how you would escape the choke at that point, but if you indeed can there is nothing stopping you from executing the nike technique.
just don't forget to cancel your bank card if it's still in the ATM.




If he has a knife at your throat and you go to grab your throat is slit. If it's a gun your head is blown off. Try it with a watergun,you'll get wet.




I showed some of these disarms to MattJ today..but we are keeping the technique to ourselves...heh heh heh...
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#196427 - 10/23/05 09:10 PM Re: Knife to the throat from the back. [Re: RangerG]
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Registered: 10/16/05
Posts: 427
Loc: Fiji
Quote:

One of the worst knife situations to be in. The escape? Much like the Forearm Choke from Behind. I discussed this in Martial Arts Talk, but would like to hear all your variations or alternate escapes.

I think of this as one of the ATM situations, much like a couple of the gun situations like gun to the back or back of the head..




http://www.usadojo.com/martial-arts-articles/article-6-points-for-gun-defense.htm

Judos Haimen zuke for the gun defence (must be awfully quick)!!

http://www.harbrodojo.com/techniques/rearattackII.htm
or a variation for knife to the throat. Or a Ushiro Jime.

I hope this was helpful!!

*bows respectfully*
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#196428 - 10/24/05 12:40 AM Re: Knife to the throat from the back. [Re: h2whoa]
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Registered: 08/27/05
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Loc: Bellingham, WA
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