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#195368 - 10/21/05 03:28 AM Re: Needles and intentional H.I.V infectition [Re: Neko456]
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I heard you need to be exposed by huge amounts of spit (approx 10 pints) before you're in danger of HIV or aids. Blood however is a different matter.
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#195369 - 10/21/05 12:49 PM Re: Needles and intentional H.I.V infectition [Re: Bushi_no_ki]
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I'm not into such detail studies but I am scared as hell of being infected so Rubber or under leather gloves work for me. Note I hear this stuff is so vile it will penertrate leather and still GET YOU!!!!

Thanks for the Info I'll start using 2 pair of rubber gloves.


Edited by Neko456 (10/21/05 12:58 PM)
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#195370 - 10/21/05 12:55 PM Re: Needles and intentional H.I.V infectition [Re: Chanters]
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I'm not sure about HIV or Aids but I hear it doesn't take that much if it gets into your mouth or nose or a open cut and you got Hep C.

Infected Blood is always bad news totally. Man you guys are scarring me, I'd rather be hit square in the face then spit on now days. Its like fighting bio terriorist, who's spit is infected??? Almost like the Red scare of the 50s in the USA everybody was communist??
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#195371 - 10/21/05 01:22 PM Re: Needles and intentional H.I.V infectition [Re: Gavin]
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Never heard that one but there have been incident where people have said they have HIV and had needles in their hand and were going to attack. In any case I would personlly treat an attack of a contaminated needle the same as a knife or gun.
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#195372 - 10/21/05 08:14 PM Re: Needles and intentional H.I.V infectition [Re: Gavin]
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I always watch my seat before I seat down in any kind of seat. I usually out my coat or something under me. My friends think im paranoid.lol

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#195373 - 10/26/05 02:49 PM Re: Needles and intentional H.I.V infectition [Re: Alex89]
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Registered: 10/04/05
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hah, I used to do that as well, i saw in cops a cop get stuck with a syringe and they told him to make it bleed, just to mkae yourself bleed as much as possible and wash it off alot. I dunno, there is also meds you can take within the first 24 hours that you take or something that will reduce the chances of you getting HIV. I dunno, but still, this [censored] scary.
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#195374 - 10/26/05 04:03 PM Re: Needles and intentional H.I.V infectition [Re: Gavin]
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Good info in this thread guys. All I can say is.......damn.
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#195375 - 10/26/05 06:58 PM Re: Needles and intentional H.I.V infectition [Re: MattJ]
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Yep agreed, I just wanted to say thanks to all those who contributed. All the info and opinions! This is a scary topic!
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#195376 - 12/15/05 10:30 AM Re: Needles and intentional H.I.V infectition [Re: Gavin]
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Registered: 11/28/05
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Good thread.I had been thinking a lot about this danger before reading this.

What if I fail to prevent the attack and I find myself with a needle against my throat?

We have a stereotype of the bad guys. It is easy to be aware against a shady looking fellow, dirty clothes, smelly, eyes rolling and shining under the moon, visible from miles away as a bad beast

But the REAL criminal, like the serial killers, are intelligent and cold persons. They will come well dressed, with charming and innocent smiles, giving us their cards for a job or a business, stablishing a friendship, etc. It is not THAT easy to be aware against such kind of people, totally different from our tipical night stalker with the crazy eyes!

So, if we fail, and the needle shoves against our skin, what to do?

I would:
a) Complain until the point I believe reasonable (no tighting my hands, no van, no secondary scene).
b) If he doesn´t leave after receiving what he wants (and the guy described earlier, wants to KILL ME, so he won´t let go) I would seek a psychological distraction and then
c) Push away his 'weapon' with my two hands againt his limb (wrist, arm,etc), not touching the syringe.
d) A strike for opening (maybe a kick to the jewells or something. I have his arm grabbed with my two hands).
e) Best Martial Art on Earth: RUN - DO.

Any other idea?

Even though AIDS is frail, dager remains as long as this syringe can be plenty of God knows what! Ebola, Anthrax, a new virus, poison, acid, or whatever you like! So, let us consider the danger more cautiously!
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#195377 - 12/20/05 07:45 AM Re: Needles and intentional H.I.V infectition [Re: Chanters]
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Registered: 03/05/03
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Excellent thread. I was involved in an incident a while ago whilst working at a nightclub. Someone came up to the front door feeling ill and saying they had been stabbed by a needle. Soon we had other people coming up reporting being jabbed.
The door team were obviously concerned, a potential nutter in the venue and also the panic that could ensue.
Luckly we found out it was someone playing a joke with a pin and the intial victim recovered soon after.
I think every member of the team was scared though, one even ran out to get a stab vest from his car
Scary incident though.

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