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#193788 - 11/28/05 12:02 AM Re: Heian or Pinan kata? [Re: RiverHorse]
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We call the kata's Heian in our club. So far, I have only practiced Heian Shodan, Heian Nidan and Heian Sandan but I have seen others perform the other two Heian kata.

I would have to say that I like Heian Sandan the best so far.

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#193789 - 11/28/05 06:45 AM Re: Heian or Pinan kata? [Re: RiverHorse]
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I agree it is important to change up your starting position. Another thing is to try them blindfolded and see where you end up at the end.

Oh and we call them Pinan in my system and I think Yondan and Godan are my favorite.
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#193790 - 12/08/05 07:39 PM Re: Heian or Pinan kata? [Re: bo-ken]
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We call them Heian but they were called Pinan first before they started adding the Jpanese dialect. My favorites are Nidan, Yondan, and Godan.
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#193791 - 12/09/05 11:45 AM Re: Heian or Pinan kata? [Re: BAMA REDNECK9000]
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i'm in wado so they'er pinan for us. i only known pinan nidan so therefore it has to be my fave by default. can't wait to get me grubby mitts on shodan, i love some of those locking movements.
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#193792 - 12/30/05 03:34 PM Re: Heian or Pinan kata? [Re: hawkfish]
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Pinans katas etc are good teaching vehicles to exercise a large group while doing martial arts moves rather than simply exercise. It is helpful for moving a large group as well since you don't want everyone crashing into each other - and you can address adjustments as they stand out easily.

However kata has its place and it is a piece of the picture and should take a back seat to actual interaction with physical application/bunkai of technique. It helps students take home homework since they can recreate the moves on their own if they have been drilled with it. Again, not a replacement to actual interaction as many watered down schools have made it. If you watch a heavy emphasis Kata student vs one where interaction is emphasized, the kata focused student is very choppy and often can't hold their own. Watch the performance of some past advanced black belts from schools where they were kata champions that have entered UFC or kumite - they get clobbered quickly.

good luck with your training

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