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#193390 - 12/02/05 12:43 PM Re: Industrial Society Destroys Mind and Environment [Re: sushil_yadav]
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Quote by sushil_yadav -

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Destroy Shopping Culture.
Destroy Industrial Society.


Go back to Simple Living.
Go back to putting just Food on the Table.




Fine, OK. You first. Still waiting to hear HOW you wish to effect all these changes.......
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#193391 - 12/02/05 12:56 PM Re: Industrial Society Destroys Mind and Environme [Re: MattJ]
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Quote:

Quote by sushil_yadav -

Quote:

Destroy Shopping Culture.
Destroy Industrial Society.


Go back to Simple Living.
Go back to putting just Food on the Table.




Fine, OK. You first. Still waiting to hear HOW you wish to effect all these changes.......





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#193392 - 12/02/05 01:06 PM Re: Industrial Society Destroys Mind and Environme [Re: phoenixsflame]
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You know what? I'm not giving up indoor plumbing or modern medicine. Simple living....sucks.

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#193393 - 12/02/05 01:12 PM Re: Industrial Society Destroys Mind and Environme [Re: harlan]
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You know what? I'm not giving up indoor plumbing or modern medicine. Simple living....sucks.





No, primitive living sucks. simple living doesn't mean you have to go to a hole to do your civic "duty"...

At least I would not think so, why sacrifice the things that are beneficial, just because they came about at the same time as the things that stole us from the heart of living. There are complications, and then there are innovations. Don't cut off the nose to spite the face.
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#193394 - 12/02/05 01:16 PM Re: Industrial Society Destroys Mind and Environme [Re: phoenixsflame]
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For anyone interested in practical aspects making different choices in a consumer society you might consider looking at Mennonite communities.
One book, "Living More With Less" can serve as a good introduction.

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#193395 - 12/02/05 01:20 PM Re: Industrial Society Destroys Mind and Environme [Re: phoenixsflame]
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Did I miss something? Does he not advocate a return to non-industrial living? Does he 'really' advocate simple living (which I think can be relative to the person), or primitive?

I think he can go first. Turn off the computer.

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#193396 - 12/02/05 01:26 PM Re: Industrial Society Destroys Mind and Environme [Re: harlan]
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Did I miss something? Does he not advocate a return to non-industrial living? Does he 'really' advocate simple living (which I think can be relative to the person), or primitive?

I think he can go first. Turn off the computer.




I've no clue. Personally I think returning to the dark ages would although be interesting, would be counter productive. We'd just reach this stage again and do the same thing, lol, lesson's are never learned *coughs - Babylon, coughs - Rome, coughs England, coughcoughcough*
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#193397 - 12/02/05 01:27 PM Re: Industrial Society Destroys Mind and Environme [Re: harlan]
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I think he can go first. Turn off the computer.


great. more coca-cola nose-hosed on the keyboard. Too funny.

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#193398 - 12/04/05 05:26 PM Re: Industrial Society Destroys Mind and Environme [Re: JoelM]
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Quote:

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A few birds have got infected with bird-flu and Man has started killing millions of birds.
They say birds are a threat to humans.


Sometime ago there was Mad Cow disease and Man started killing hundreds of thousands of cows.
They said cows are a threat to humans.



Quote:

It is Man who has killed millions of people in Wars and other forms of Violence and can kill millions more any time in future.
Man should follow the same logic here and kill all people.




I'm sorry, you are using false logic there. We do not kill all birds because of bird flu. We do not kill all cows because of mad cow. Therefore we should not kill all humans.



Actually, it is you who is using false logic here, as he reasoned killing only all infected people by people killing infected birds and cows. the second quote of your is telling something different.
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#193399 - 12/04/05 10:46 PM Re: Industrial Society Destroys Mind and Environme [Re: LastGURU]
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I don't understand, could you explain better, please?
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