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#192220 - 10/08/05 02:55 PM
JKD influenced by TKD?
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I heard the fast, powerful kicks of JKD were taken from TKD and that Bruce Lee's style was influenced by TKD.
I heard that this TKD influence was brought to Mr. Lee by Jhoon Rhee, a TKD grandmaster, whom Bruce Lee was close friends with.
I got these facts through reading about both Bruce Lee and Jhoon Rhee. What do you guys think?
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#192221 - 10/08/05 04:21 PM
Re: JKD influenced by TKD?
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It was influenced by TKD in some way of that I am sure
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#192222 - 10/08/05 04:38 PM
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It sounds like you are asking two different things.
Was Bruce Lee influenced by TKD? His close friendship with Jhoon Rhee would seem to bear this out.
TKD's influence on JKD is less clear. Bruce was investigating many arts that use kicks - including Tang Soo Do, Muay Thai, Savate - not to mention the Northern Kung Fu styles that he was already familiar with.
I would say that modern JKD kicking tends to be built primarily off of either Muay Thai or Savate.
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#192223 - 10/08/05 04:44 PM
Re: JKD influenced by TKD?
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How is it that you gather JKD kicks are influenced by muay thai? Brice Lee when asked about muay thai said he belived it needed work and the uppercut was almost non existant. After saying that why would you think JKD was influenced by muay thai? (Not a diss to muay thai or JKD!)
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#192225 - 10/08/05 04:50 PM
Re: JKD influenced by TKD?
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Mike L -
You are doing the same thing that TKD89 did - you are confusing the man for the art. Please note that I said modern JKD tends to use MT or Savate.
Many JKD schools are using more of a MMA base (boxing or MT/BJJ) as opposed to the Wing Chun base that was prevalent when Bruce was around.
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#192226 - 10/08/05 04:52 PM
Re: JKD influenced by TKD?
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#192227 - 10/08/05 04:53 PM
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Agreed
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#192228 - 10/08/05 09:33 PM
Re: JKD influenced by TKD?
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JKD was influenced by a search for the most effective methods. Not any particular style. Did he borrow anything from TKD? Probably. But he also borrowed from a lot of other arts as well. Is TKD a direct and obvious influence or the most significant influence on JKD? No, absolutely not.
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#192229 - 10/09/05 12:11 AM
Re: JKD influenced by TKD?
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I know this but JKD is "to be like water" ever changing and does not have any strict rules as to the type of kicking.
Edited by Mike_L (10/09/05 12:12 AM)
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