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#189308 - 05/13/08 12:43 PM Re: Fighting girls in competition. [Re: everyone]
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everyone

Maybe, many "point" matchs at open martial arts meets are little more than high speed pillow fights/and or games of "tag".

MattJ was not talking about such meaningless applications---least that is not how I read it.


Edited by cxt (05/13/08 12:44 PM)
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#189309 - 05/13/08 02:08 PM Re: Fighting girls in competition. [Re: cxt]
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cxt, I get that. I was just sarcasticly saying what you just said. Sorry if that wasn't clear.

But, this is a thread about "fighting girls in competition." not on the street. (That being re-stated) As the 13 year old girl said, she often defeats grown men blackbelts in competition. My guess is she is not stronger or heavier then her opponents.

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#189310 - 05/13/08 02:34 PM Re: Fighting girls in competition. [Re: everyone]
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everyone -

I was actually addressing this post:

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nah, that's the beauty of Martial Arts, it doesn't matter if ur a girl or guy, short or small. Martial Arts is SKILL, not brute strength. For instance in war, it's tactics and not pure numbers or brute force.




The Master seemed to be implying that size and strength have no bearing in martial arts at all. A false proposition, as anyone that has trained for any length of time will know. And even in point-sparring, size (at least) matters. Taller opponents will have a better chance against shorter ones, unless there is a significant skill difference.
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#189311 - 05/14/08 01:44 AM Re: Fighting girls in competition. [Re: everyone]
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everyone

And I get that as well--I see it a totally possible in the manner in which many open meets are run.....which is why I could care less---so a 13 year old girl is a better pillow fighter?

Makes no difference to me and my training--in fact the more people that train in that manner the safer I will be.

I'm not irked BTW---enjoy your week
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#189312 - 05/14/08 03:21 AM Re: Fighting girls in competition. [Re: cxt]
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uhh i did not say size and strength have nothing to do with it, but skill is most valuable as well as speed.
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#189313 - 05/14/08 07:56 AM Re: Fighting girls in competition. [Re: horizon]
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I was just curious about people's (read men) attitude towards women in martial arts. There is another interesting thread going on about women and martial arts.
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I like to treat women the same as men in the dojo.
Some women are difficult to fight against because women (IMO) tend to rely more on technique over muscle then men. Which is a good approach.
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#189314 - 05/14/08 10:31 AM Re: Fighting girls in competition. [Re: Ives]
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There is a video of Backhold wrestling where the girl is beating the guys. As my coach said, "You'd better know what you're doing, cos she does!"
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#189315 - 05/21/08 07:09 AM Re: Fighting girls in competition. [Re: trevek]
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When it comes to sparring girls at my kickboxing/boxing gym i tend to treat them the same as the guys but that is mainly because most of the girls at my gym are tougher than a lot of guys i know and they compete in full contact. When i used to spar in tkd i would go lighter on some girls depending on the rank/skill level.

Something i found interesting is a girl from a thaiboxing gym i trained at in thailand is scheduled to be fighting a thai guy in full muay thai rules full contact (i assume).

http://pub31.bravenet.com/forum/2595606398/show/764595

Just wondering what you guys think of this? I dont really agree with it and can only assume the thai guy will take a dive as i dont think a thai guy beating on a woman would go down too well for one of the most commercialised/touristy parts of thailand.
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#189316 - 07/30/08 08:50 AM Re: Fighting girls in competition. [Re: horizon]
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I don't like guys going easy on me since I'm a female. Women can kick butt too. My brother has the "don't hit a girl" thing in his head and it makes him a bad practice buddy. He won't even do a fake punch out of fear of actually hitting me.
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#189317 - 07/30/08 09:59 AM Re: Fighting girls in competition. [Re: KickingAngel16]
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Edited by MattJ (07/30/08 10:22 AM)
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