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#189248 - 11/17/05 07:32 AM Re: Fighting girls in competition. [Re: ButterflyPalm]
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BP,

I agree with you that most women are most usually smaller and physically weaker than most men.

We were talking about self defence, not training. The kind of man who would attack a woman is most probably NOT the kind of man who has trained for years the way you have.

I think that most unarmed and untrained attackers could and would be hurt by a woman trained with a stick, at least enough to make good her escape. In my view, if she escapes unharmed or relatively unharmed, she has "won"
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#189249 - 11/17/05 12:26 PM Re: Fighting girls in competition. [Re: ButterflyPalm]
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Zexon, Wonder woman, Alias, Super girl, Dark Angle, the Chemealon, Halloween 1,2,3, Scream 1&2 and others all show women as the lead heroins that save or survive past the stupid males. I heard a woman friend say that she like such shows because they shows women as strong powerful characters. Giving some kind of false security, I've even heard women comment on whipping some guys a$$, Most MA women understand their limitations and have a better chance of doing it, if need be. Working with men smashes false security, even a women that lifts more weigh then a fit man isn't his equal toward power extertion wise.

But Buuterflypalm U do make a good point except a conditioned forearm is different then the swallow senstive spots like the temple, chin, eye, solar plex or groin some the common target for back fist. So that little test was a little unfair.

The topic I believe was competition not real fighting. And yes, fellow MA Women, I know of some women that can and have handle themselves on the street. But butterflypalm made a good point except for fish and insect maybe others, most male animals are bigger and more powerful. Trying to be P.C.

But in this point match most of the women won, even number teams it ended up 1 male member (with cave man slam) vs. 4 women and 2 males on the other side. The 1 guy eventually lost to one of the girls, I mean WOMEN.


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#189250 - 11/17/05 12:34 PM Re: Fighting girls in competition. [Re: Neko456]
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My sister is 4yrs older than me. When I was in 7th grade she beat up a bully that was picking on me. They were both in 10th. She is 5'0" and weighs 95lbs. She's like a chihuaha on acid in a fight!
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#189251 - 11/17/05 12:44 PM Re: Fighting girls in competition. [Re: BrianS]
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My older sister did the same but she was more like a Tiger cat, she knew how to use her nails. I never seen her take a good shot though from a man, usually he stands there smiling waiting to be clawed up.

Girls are stronger then most guys until the guy gets 13-16yrs of age IMO. Then the fight in the dog kicks in, not size. Most women are not taught to be fighters unless they have brothers. I know several girls that could whip some boys in the 10th-12th grade in fist it cuffs, these girls had plenty of brother and could go. Rare but true.

But Competition was the topic.
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#189252 - 11/17/05 03:04 PM Re: Fighting girls in competition. [Re: Neko456]
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Working with men smashes false security, even a women that lifts more weigh then a fit man isn't his equal toward power extertion wise.



I disagree that a fit woman that lifts more weight than a fit man isn't as powerfull as that man. What makes you think that the man (which is obviously weaker since he can't lift as much) is still more powerfull than the woman, assuming they both have the same skill level?

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#189253 - 11/17/05 05:17 PM Re: Fighting girls in competition. [Re: Neko456]
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Girls are stronger then most guys until the guy gets 13-16yrs of age IMO. Then the fight in the dog kicks in, not size. Most women are not taught to be fighters unless they have brothers. I know several girls that could whip some boys in the 10th-12th grade in fist it cuffs, these girls had plenty of brother and could go. Rare but true.



i'd agree with that going by me and my sister. i'd like to add she starts most of the fights.
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#189254 - 11/17/05 05:25 PM Re: Fighting girls in competition. [Re: Foundation]
Neko456 Offline
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Body mass and bone structure just like a small man that can bench press more then a bigger man, in overall strength the bigger man maybe still strongest because he IS BIGGER. Being stronger in one lift doesn't make him strongest. Its not quite the same because the bigger guy man, may can swaut/leg press or dead lift more.

But women are geneticly lighter framed and bones are smaller no matter how much muscle they pack around them. Not saying that this fit woman can't knock the fit man out, it would be harder but she could. Strenght is not that much a factor concerning technique.

Its not quite apples and oranges but it is more like Watermelon and Cataloupe. One made softer on purpose no matter how big it gets its still a Cataloupe. Both are melons but...

I'm not downing women just stating a fact a 5'5" man 9 times out 10 will be stronger over all then a 5'5" woman both weighing the same. bc horomones, muscles & bone density, if both were fit the man would weigh more bc of his muscle & bone structure.

Am I senseing a Zexon complex? Lets keep it real.
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#189255 - 11/19/05 02:57 PM Re: Fighting girls in competition. [Re: funstick5000]
TaeKwonMiles Offline
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I agree. Im not sexiest but I believe that most girls are not as aggresive. strong, or as skill ful of boys if they were the same belt level. I have seen cases that this is not true but I think that girls should be fighting with girls and boys should be fighting with boys in competition.

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#189256 - 11/19/05 10:21 PM Re: Fighting girls in competition. [Re: TaeKwonMiles]
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Your popularity with the girls on this Forum is going to dip by MILES
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#189257 - 11/20/05 12:02 PM Re: Fighting girls in competition. [Re: ButterflyPalm]
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Your popularity with the girls on this Forum is going to dip by MILES




Ditto all the karatekas - male and female.
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