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#186016 - 09/16/05 02:17 PM Re: US or Israel? [Re: RangerG]
Plantman Offline
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Registered: 05/20/05
Posts: 62
Loc: Maimi
Buy " How to defend yourself against armed assault by Eyal Yanilov and Imi.

YOu'll see the grenade disarm as well as dozens of other stick, knife, gun disarms.

Very helpful.

The grenade disarm is similar to the gun knife in that you want to control the hand so that the grenade does not detonate.
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#186017 - 09/16/05 04:19 PM Re: US or Israel? [Re: Plantman]
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Registered: 08/27/05
Posts: 1163
Loc: Bellingham, WA
that book is a really good introductory perspective on how the israelis train. it's a whole different world where you actually have to think about how to disarm a grenade.

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#186018 - 09/17/05 04:59 PM Re: US or Israel? [Re: ShikataGaNai]
retzef Offline
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Registered: 05/18/05
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I think Israeli training gives a whole different perspective than american teaching. Much higher level of intensity.
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#186019 - 09/17/05 05:32 PM Re: US or Israel? [Re: RangerG]
awais786 Offline
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Registered: 06/03/05
Posts: 79
Loc: ONT. CANADA
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If i was to train karv maga i would either train in pakistan or isreal.Reason simple.Karv maga in these to countries are mostly thaught to military personnal.So i would get kinda military training




Interesting concept. Military Krav also coveres things like hand grenade defense and disarming somone with a machine gun. Would you say that is appropriate for someone living in Canada..or the US?




Yes.Up till now the only people i faught were using their"sissy" punches and kicks.Even the strongest of them was to swing his arms so he caould punch.I took them down with no sweat{Not trying to be a VTG }.But if they were to come up to me with a gun or a kinfe then that would be a real challange to defend against.So learning military style MAs will get me to know how to defend against guns and stuff like that.

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#186020 - 11/09/05 07:52 PM Re: US or Israel? [Re: RangerG]
Choochoo Offline
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Registered: 11/09/05
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To be honest, I think your question sounds a little prejudice. Many people think that simply because an instructor is Japanese he's a ninja or just because he's Isreali he's a master of Grav maga. What kind of instruction are you seeking and have you done research on these guys? I would say find the one with the most "street combat" experience and go with him. Second question.... Do you speak Arab?

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#186021 - 11/09/05 09:42 PM Re: US or Israel? [Re: awais786]
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Registered: 10/30/05
Posts: 168
Quote:

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If i was to train karv maga i would either train in pakistan or isreal.Reason simple.Karv maga in these to countries are mostly thaught to military personnal.So i would get kinda military training




Interesting concept. Military Krav also coveres things like hand grenade defense and disarming somone with a machine gun. Would you say that is appropriate for someone living in Canada..or the US?




Yes.Up till now the only people i faught were using their"sissy" punches and kicks.Even the strongest of them was to swing his arms so he caould punch.I took them down with no sweat{Not trying to be a VTG }.But if they were to come up to me with a gun or a kinfe then that would be a real challange to defend against.So learning military style MAs will get me to know how to defend against guns and stuff like that.




Huhmmm dont quite get this??? Defend against guns? You dont have a gun?Hope the person with a gun is stupid. Rather not be in that situation for real but for training your navy seals do the same thing? and there are training vidios?
neas ex,,,soldier /vet

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#186022 - 11/09/05 09:46 PM Re: US or Israel? [Re: RangerG]
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Registered: 11/04/05
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Loc: Northwest Arkansas
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Say your had a choice of Instructors...A well qualified US instructor that had years of experience, or an Israeli instructor.. Which would you chose, and why?

I can understand traveling to Israel to train if you have the money and time. Plus the travel and experience would be a blast.




People travel to Korea to study TKD and Okinawa to study karate. In my opinion there are many people teaching here in the U.S. that are just as good as any others anywhere on the planet.Ofcourse,I've never been anywhere either.
Your learning potential and ability are up to you,not where you go to train. They can only show you how to do it,you have to do it.
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#186023 - 11/09/05 10:44 PM Re: US or Israel? [Re: Choochoo]
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Registered: 04/18/05
Posts: 1026
Loc: Chester County, Pennsylvania
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To be honest, I think your question sounds a little prejudice. Many people think that simply because an instructor is Japanese he's a ninja or just because he's Isreali he's a master of Grav maga. What kind of instruction are you seeking and have you done research on these guys? I would say find the one with the most "street combat" experience and go with him. Second question.... Do you speak Arab?




Prejudiced? Why? It's a simple question. No I do not speak Arabic. How is this relevant to the question?
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#186024 - 11/09/05 10:47 PM Re: US or Israel? [Re: RangerG]
BrianS Offline
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Registered: 11/04/05
Posts: 5959
Loc: Northwest Arkansas
Quote:

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To be honest, I think your question sounds a little prejudice. Many people think that simply because an instructor is Japanese he's a ninja or just because he's Isreali he's a master of Grav maga. What kind of instruction are you seeking and have you done research on these guys? I would say find the one with the most "street combat" experience and go with him. Second question.... Do you speak Arab?




Prejudiced? Why? It's a simple question. No I do not speak Arabic. How is this relevant to the question?




GEEEEZZZZ!!! What's wrong with people!!!! If we don't speak Arabic we are not allowed to ponder hypothetical questions??
This is irrelevant garbage!
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#186025 - 11/09/05 10:54 PM Re: US or Israel? [Re: BrianS]
RangerG Offline
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Registered: 04/18/05
Posts: 1026
Loc: Chester County, Pennsylvania
Go figure..the poster is from Canada so I have no idea how Arabic enters into it...
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