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#185880 - 09/20/05 09:38 AM Re: Vegan vs. Omnivore [Re: Chanters]
MAGr Offline
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I know plenty of 'ideological' vegetarians who go and buy petrol with their cars. I dont want to start a political debate, but you understand what I mean?

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#185881 - 09/20/05 09:44 AM Re: Vegan vs. Omnivore [Re: Chanters]
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My personal reason is that I see too much suffering and unecessary death in the world already and feel I don't want to contribute to it any more than I already do. If I can live without it then why not?




Perfectly reasonable logic, that I neither condone, nor condemn, and i suggest we all agree to disagree before this so far agreeable thread inevitably starts going round in ever more angry circles
We dont need a nutritional version of the MMA/TMA argument do we?

' who would win- Ali, with some BJJ training and trained on a vegetarian diet, or Tyson, with a BB in TKD fed purely on raw steak? '

*Cord runs screaming into the woods with 4 kilos of trail mix till the dust settles*
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#185882 - 09/20/05 09:45 AM Re: Vegan vs. Omnivore [Re: MAGr]
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Yep, I'm also working on that but without getting too political, our government don't want us using ethanol or vegetable oil to run our vehicles on! I know I'm far from perfect, but I'm making a start and do try to be an ethical consumer.

Now I await your name calling... what's it gonna be? Soap dodger? Tree hugger? Peace fairy? Sandal wearer?
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#185883 - 09/20/05 09:49 AM Re: Vegan vs. Omnivore [Re: Cord]
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*Cord runs screaming into the woods with 4 kilos of trail mix till the dust settles*





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#185884 - 09/20/05 09:50 AM Re: Vegan vs. Omnivore [Re: Cord]
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*Cord runs screaming into the woods with 4 kilos of trail mix till the dust settles*




*Follows Cord limping along with a bag of beef jerky.*
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#185885 - 09/20/05 09:53 AM Re: Vegan vs. Omnivore [Re: Chanters]
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I m trying to pretend I m working, and its not going very well when I crack up in front of my computer screen every 5 minutes! Stop it!

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I know I'm far from perfect, but I'm making a start and do try to be an ethical consumer



Good on you mate. If only everyone would be as counscienscious as you. no joke this time.

lol at 'sandal wearer'!

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#185886 - 09/20/05 09:54 AM Re: Vegan vs. Omnivore [Re: MAGr]
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Cheers MAGr!
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#185887 - 09/20/05 10:02 AM Re: Vegan vs. Omnivore [Re: Chanters]
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The difference between a vegan and a vegetarian is that a vegan doesn't eat meat or fish and also doesn't consume dairy products like milk, cheese and eggs. I eat dairy products but do not eat meat or fish or any products which contain gelatine or rennet etc.




I'm well aware of the difference between vegans and other vegetarians--I simply asked what level of vegetarian you are. You're a lacto-ovo-vegetarian, so we've settled that one.

And because of that, you are getting nutrients that a vegan does not.
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#185888 - 09/20/05 10:10 AM Re: Veg and Non Veg [Re: Cord]
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I could live quite happily on beans and rice for the rest of my life...with some greens on the side...because I really like them. And I despise the taste of fruit. I break out in hives when I drink orange juice, and if I touch tomatos my skin will break open and bleed.

How about an argument that, philosophy aside, each individual might have different needs...and that not one diet can really fit everyone?

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#185889 - 09/20/05 10:12 AM Re: Vegan vs. Omnivore [Re: Chanters]
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My personal reason is that I see too much suffering and unecessary death in the world already and feel I don't want to contribute to it any more than I already do. If I can live without it then why not?




Do you get all your veggies and grains from organic farms?

I ask this because, if you don't, you're still a part of the suffering "problem".

How so? Well, you know all those big, sci-fi-looking farm machines used on ordinary farms? Those devices end up slicing and dicing an awful lot of little critters.
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