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#185124 - 09/14/05 10:56 AM Re: Learning not to telegraph [Re: Kintama]
Bushi_no_ki Offline

Registered: 05/03/05
Posts: 1669
Loc: POM, Monterey CA
One of the things that might get underlooked here is plyos man. Know of a long flight of steps you can jog up and down? Do it. It doesn't help you telegraph less per se, but it does increase your explosiveness off the block, thus reducing the time from move to strike making contact, thus making the telegraph less noticeable. On the note that this might get called as doubtfull, I admit to not having had the chance to test this in freesparring, but have had the chance to see this work in technique work (prearranged sparring if you will). Good thing I am of a higher rank and was able to control my contact level. The person I was working with didn't even get the parry/block down in time and took a light kick to the stomach.

Oh, and PP, about kenpo/kempo, the only time spelling matters is if you're writing out the full name of the style. In the case of MattJ and myself, it is kenpo.

#185125 - 10/25/05 09:55 PM Re: Learning not to telegraph [Re: PierrePressure]
Dudley32 Offline
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Registered: 10/25/05
Posts: 482
Loc: Indiana
Wait...Block...move in with the block and punch the snot out of em
Practice doesn't make perfect. Perfect Practice makes perfect.

#185126 - 10/31/05 04:20 PM Re: Learning not to telegraph [Re: PierrePressure]
monkey_style Offline

Registered: 10/26/05
Posts: 9
dunno if this will help, but in capoeira, we practice feinting kicks and moving into positions from which a variety of kicks can be thrown. if you always throw the same kick from the same position, your opponent will read it pretty quick.

#185127 - 11/02/05 10:39 PM Re: Learning not to telegraph [Re: PierrePressure]
Subedei Offline

Registered: 12/23/04
Posts: 479
telegraphing isn't so bad. It's a good way to get someone to respond. If you generally know how they're going to react to your telegraphed techniques you can simply anticipate this reaction and hit them in the counterattack. The less techniques they have, the easier it is to figure out what they're going to do a few moves ahead.

#185128 - 11/16/05 07:40 PM Re: Learning not to telegraph [Re: PierrePressure]
Leapordsknowbest Offline

Registered: 11/24/04
Posts: 100
Loc: Nashville,Tenneessee
In Hung Fai Yi we keep our elbows in front of the body. Its the winding back that telegraphs. Its kinda hard to telegraph a kick in my opionion.

#185129 - 11/17/05 02:10 AM Re: Learning not to telegraph [Re: PierrePressure]
ButterflyPalm Offline

Registered: 08/26/04
Posts: 2637
Loc: Malaysia

My main problem is this. As I've said before (in my post "Being short is the pits"), I'm pretty short

I don't mean to sound sarcastic or superior; being short is not your main problem. Your main problem is short on confidence. This will translate into over consciousness of your percieved give-away body movements, which is more obvious to your opponent than your actual body movements.

Everyone moves a little and telegraphs a little, but your self-consciousness just makes it worse, like maybe a quick unconscious glance to that part of your body which is going to do something, just to make sure it is not giving away any tell-tale signs? and by doing so actually 'telegraph' your intention to your opponent?

My advice, be natural, be loose, be confident, be (dare I say it?) like water.

The late great Bruce Li was onced asked about just this problem; his answer (which took me sometime to grasp) imagine an object falling off a table; it just 'falls' and he was not talking about gravity.

Watch the 'hand-sticking-to-hand' fight between him and Bob Wall in Enter the Dragon and hopefully grasp the meaning of those words from the great man.

If I am wrong and all the above is not your problem, then, work on your speed; be so fast that even if your opponent knows whats coming, it happened too fast for him.
I'll rather be happy than right, anytime.

#185130 - 12/04/05 03:09 PM Re: Learning not to telegraph [Re: ButterflyPalm]
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Registered: 07/02/05
Posts: 173
I hadn't checked this thread in awhile, and I just wanted to say "thank you" to everyone who responded.

I've sparred quite a few times since making that post, and I'm finally becoming aware of the things I'm doing and learning how to, as some of you said, 1) Use them to my advantage (like for fakes and such), and 2) Eliminate them if I need to. I'm dying to get a mirror, but there's literally no place in my house to put it, so I'm going to have to wait until I find out if I'll be moving (hopefully I can have someplace to put it at the new house).

BP, your answer was very interesting. I know I don't get self-conscious about if I'm telegraphing a technique while I'm sparring, but I also know that I let my "newness" get me apprehensive and therefore self-conscious, so my sparring suffered. I really feel like I'm overcoming that (a lot), but thanks for putting it into words (even if it was indirectly) .
"If life gives you lemons, you blow those lemons to bits with your laser cannon!" - Brak

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