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#184283 - 09/10/05 03:25 PM Re: Fear on the streets? [Re: ZiNe]
Prometej Offline

Registered: 04/24/05
Posts: 255
Loc: Croatia
I pulled this out of some article:

Should you choose to engage in verbal de-escalation, you must have the spirit or will to carry it out properly. This is where you need to control your FEAR. If you think you cannot "win" against your aggressor, you are already defeated in the mind. This mean you'll have to fight both your fear and your aggressor, a very precarious situation.

once you accept the fact that you are in a dangerous situation, you need to override your fear. Stop thinking about your opponent ability to hurt you which might cause an overwhelming sense of fear and self doubt. Rather focus on what you can do to him. You should "objectify your opponent" so that he's reduced into only body parts which you can kick, strike, throw, break, choke etc. He is reduced to a groin, a thigh, a knee, an arm or a pair of eyes. Depending on the manner in which he approaches you, he will expose some vulnerable areas for you to attack.

Attack: you'll be able to attack your aggressor more effectively if you've successfully recognized the dangers and override your fear. Whether the aggressor attacks you first or you decide to strike pre-emptively, you must be fully committed to your attacks until he's no longer a threat. Don't just defend and block his attacks, strike him fast and hard on his vulnerable areas to disable his attacks instantly.
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#184284 - 09/14/05 11:31 AM Re: Fear on the streets? [Re: ZiNe]
Neko456 Offline
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Registered: 01/18/05
Posts: 3260
Loc: Midwest City, Ok, USA
Overcoming fear is not the objective, channeling it is. I've always respected and feared my attacker in the street fights that I had. Even if I sized him up to not be much of a threat if I couldn't deesculated it I made myself fear him by post suggestion, "He must be armed or he wouldn't approach me like that". In this way I gave myself the adrealin/fear burst I needed to take him out quickly.

I learned this in heavy contact sparring that even a smaller, slower, less skilled opponent could overwhelm you if he fought with a will and aggression that you didn't expect. Back then a lot of these guys would spar on drugs that enhanced their performance or made them less concisous of pain (before they found that it damaged the manhood), some just wanted to win so badly that they phscyed themself out to whatever it took they'd do. You better be able to meet their challenge or be overwhelmed, dispite physical advantages or skill level if caught cold. Post suggestion or Channeling your Chi, fear/adrenlin, or respect or whatever to helps bring you to their level of combat readiness.

Fear is not a bad thing if you control/channel it.

As for blocking its been my experince if you block more then 4 times right after another you are in trouble (fighting defensively) waiting for one to land, you better use your foot work to get out of the way or go into a clinch quickly. If you are just blocking without countering him you are waiting for your KO. Nobodies thats good.

Again this just from my experinece doesn't have to be true in your case, some people you probably can block thier shots all day long. If thats the case why fight them?

Edited by Neko456 (09/14/05 11:46 AM)

#184285 - 09/14/05 02:53 PM Re: Fear on the streets? [Re: ZiNe]
matxtx Offline

Registered: 07/12/05
Posts: 700
Loc: england
i think its a state of mind too.
are you fighting to 'win' some imaginary thing...or for your life ,to survive.
their different things.
same when you train.....which do to train for?when your in front of the bag or whatever you do in training......
someone untrained ,cornered fighting for there life doing anything could do better than a trained person trying to 'win'.i try to get scared and imagine the fear ....then see what i can use like that.
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#184286 - 09/15/05 09:29 AM Re: Fear on the streets? [Re: ZiNe]
Caino Offline

Registered: 09/15/05
Posts: 12
Loc: NSW, Australia
Here is some advise I got a while ago that has helped me whenever a real fight presented itself to me, "The thought of being hit, is worse than actually being hit."
I've been hit afew times in my life (mainly by untrained thugs) and I believe this to be true.

#184287 - 09/17/05 11:00 PM Re: Fear on the streets? [Re: Caino]
CatnPhx Offline

Registered: 07/08/05
Posts: 136
Loc: Phoenix, AZ
For me, fear kicks in when I feel I can't possibly win when involved in a specific situation. That said, I know that I have only one shot at victory and I look for that opportunity until it appears. Hopefully, I haven't been beaten to a pulp by then but when it appears (and it usually does) I attack with 100% effort ... and then run like heck!!

However, when I feel I can't win, I'll always try to talk myself out of the problem and that usually works.

#184288 - 09/21/05 12:00 AM Re: Fear on the streets? [Re: Prometej]
dadoody5 Offline

Registered: 03/01/05
Posts: 63
This is the thing that gets me.

#1 Don't get into street fights. Where are you people from? Harlem?

#2 Have Fear. Use your martial arts knowledge to block hits and get away.

You people need to get this:
Street fights aren't predictable. If you're not getting mobbed, then it's possible other guy may shoot or stab you if you win.

Don't be the big man who dies. Be the wise man who just lives.

#184289 - 09/26/05 07:25 AM Re: Fear on the streets? [Re: ZiNe]
Arnagan Offline

Registered: 09/26/05
Posts: 2
ZINE: How did you guys overcome the fear and fight for the first time?

Arn: After a few months of group therapy I was able to discover a will and sense of self respect that left little to no room for submittion. Unwilling to pay its costs anymore, a self realization that little physical dammage I'd saved myself from by begging, wasn't worth the emotional bill that came with loosing face, AND that, read on every morsal of my being reppelling those who'd wish to victomise me.
At some point kid, the determination you'll find inside your heart to simply accept anything including death before submitting to the will of another, will keep the bullys away like nothing else ever did.

#184290 - 09/26/05 07:27 AM Re: Fear on the streets? [Re: nekogami13 V2.0]
Arnagan Offline

Registered: 09/26/05
Posts: 2
Ps. I am always afraid to an extent and I have been in dozens of "real" fights. >>

Arn: Fear, in fact can and has often been thge great nmotivator for success in battle. Fear can fuel u, give u strenght make you quicker.
It can even paralyze u if ur not carefuyl.;/

#184291 - 09/26/05 02:49 PM Re: Fear on the streets? [Re: Arnagan]
oldman Offline
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Registered: 07/28/04
Posts: 5884

Ps. I am always afraid to an extent and I have been in dozens of "real" fights. >>

I'm sorry to hear that. I hope your luck, or options improve.

#184292 - 09/26/05 03:03 PM Re: Fear on the streets? [Re: oldman]
nekogami13 V2.0 Offline
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Registered: 04/10/04
Posts: 2643
Loc: Texas, USA
As long as I stay in the profession I am in-I do not believe they will.

All of my "real" world, street, whatever you want to call them
encounters have occurred at work after verbal(if given the chance) methods failed.

It is not boasting-if I was trying to boast I would state I have never had to resort to physically restraining a single person-they all responded and cooperated with verbal command.
I'm sorry, I was just imaging what you would look like with duct tape over your mouth

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