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#182526 - 09/03/05 07:13 PM Re: Point of the Week - Large Intestine 10 [Re: Kosh]
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Kosh I think your right here. LU5 is an easier shot than LI10. James probably is confusing them, I have no doubts he'll try both out on me next session!

OK folks, we've got some good stuff on LI10. Requests for next weeks point?
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#182527 - 09/03/05 07:38 PM Re: Point of the Week - Large Intestine 10 [Re: Gavin]
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yep and I followed the error, lU5 would be the spot.
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#182528 - 09/04/05 02:01 PM Re: Point of the Week - Large Intestine 10 [Re: Kosh]
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Hi Kosh,

Good point about hitting Lung 5 but i wouldn't rule out Large Intestine 10 as a valid target, there is a lot of factors that determine which target is the best option ie: where the punch is delivered from, it could be the attacker has thrown the punch from his waist, also what angle the fist is at on delivery, some people hook punch with the thumb of their fist pointing vertically others horizontally, i personally try to put as much shock into that area as possible and it's quite easy to activate both the large intestine and lung points together when striking that area, most importantly my main objective is to jam the attackers strike and send shock into them, just like Gavin mentioned in an earlier post this aspect of activating several points together is covered extremely well in Rand Cardwell's excellent book 'The Western Bubishi'. I hope this comes across clearly because i'm new to all this forum stuff! kind regards,

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#182529 - 09/04/05 02:22 PM Re: Point of the Week - Large Intestine 10 [Re: jamesd]
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I got your gist James. Don't worry I'll do a "How to type forum posts" lesson tomorrow at the club! Dad's getting used to it too!

We're gonna play around with the LU5 and L10 strikes on tuesday night. We'll also experiment at see if we can activate both at the same time. James I'll let you whap, got an idea how we can test this out. I'll probably be typing one handed on tuesday though!
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#182530 - 09/04/05 02:23 PM Re: Point of the Week - Large Intestine 10 [Re: Gavin]
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hi Gavin,

Quote:

Hitting LI10 and following up TW17 is a lovely application for Uchi Uke!




I think you meant soto uke maybe you've got them confused! He! He! He! kind regards,

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#182531 - 09/04/05 04:36 PM Re: Point of the Week - Large Intestine 10 [Re: jamesd]
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I've had many a confused conversation about soto and uchi uke with MAs of different styles.
Some say uchi uke is inside travelling out and others say the opposite.
I've never come across 2 instructors from the same club arguing about it though.

Gavin,
How about GV14?


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#182532 - 09/05/05 04:12 AM Re: Point of the Week - Large Intestine 10 [Re: McSensei]
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GV14? Well someones been reading their Bubushi, might do that one. We'll see, I think I'll suprise you all this week!

With regards to the Soto Uke, Uchi Uke..James is right, I did mean Soto Uke. And there isn't really much arguing in the club, he's really quite a bully when he wants to be!
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#182533 - 09/06/05 05:24 AM Re: Point of the Week - Large Intestine 10 [Re: Gavin]
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We're gonna play around with the LU5 and L10 strikes on tuesday night. We'll also experiment at see if we can activate both at the same time. James I'll let you whap, got an idea how we can test this out. I'll probably be typing one handed on tuesday though!




Me and James had a play around with this last night, he threw a copy of hard hooks and we just freeze framed the strike. Although I'm pretty confident I could activate both, LI10 was definately the point the I found easier to go for. James also had the same experience. FWIW.
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#182534 - 09/07/05 04:23 PM Re: Point of the Week - Large Intestine 10 [Re: Gavin]
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Could you please describe this if possible, because I don`t see why it would be easier. I tried this yesterday and LI10 was to far out to reach it, unless if I striked it downward which was a bit weird. Lu5 was much easier for me. I guess I could strike LI10 if the hand rotated (?) more.
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#182535 - 09/08/05 05:22 AM Re: Point of the Week - Large Intestine 10 [Re: Kosh]
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No probs mate. When we attack the arm we tend to come down on it slightly, keeping the hands held quite high in the fence. However to be honest even when jaming the point just seemed more accessible to us. We did find though that when attacking horizontally, with a punch for example then LU5 was a an easier target to hit. I feel this would be a little more risky on the street as you stand alot more chance of missing.

We did double check to make sure it was LI10 we were hitting, rather than LU5. Everytime we tried, with the hooking hand both vertical and horizontal, we naturally struck the outer edge of the arm. When jaming in hard, we covered both points, but LI10 was the one that was hurting.

Perhaps we've just got a strange way of doing things!
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