FightingArts Estore
Pressure Points
From a medical professional, straight facts on where and how to hit that can save your life.
Stretching
Limber or not, anyone can add height and speed to their kicks with this method.
Calligraphy
For yourself or as a gift, calligraphy is special, unique and lasting.
Karate Uniforms
Look your best. Max snap. low cost & superior crafted: “Peak Performance Gold” 16 oz uniforms.

MOTOBU
Classic book translation. Hard to find. Not in stores.
Who's Online
0 registered (), 24 Guests and 4 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Newest Members
Antalerico, Uzumaki, dbrit, pwm, 3DMAA
22977 Registered Users
Top Posters (30 Days)
futsaowingchun 3
Antalerico 2
cxt 1
Marcus Charles 1
ergees 1
July
Su M Tu W Th F Sa
1 2 3 4
5 6 7 8 9 10 11
12 13 14 15 16 17 18
19 20 21 22 23 24 25
26 27 28 29 30 31
New Topics
Leg Checks and Sweeps
by futsaowingchun
Yesterday at 09:09 PM
Sup Gee Sao-10 character Hand
by futsaowingchun
Yesterday at 09:06 PM
CSW Erik Paulson Chicago Area October 10, 2015
by Marcus Charles
Yesterday at 05:25 PM
2015 European Championship Baku: Finals, streams
by ergees
06/28/15 04:21 PM
Wing Chun's inside information
by futsaowingchun
06/15/15 06:02 PM
Where Are They Now?
by Dobbersky
05/30/13 08:08 AM
Taekwondo loosing it's face/popularity
by
01/07/08 03:11 AM
Don't think aikido is effective self-defense
by
08/15/00 07:29 PM
Recent Posts
Leg Checks and Sweeps
by futsaowingchun
Yesterday at 09:09 PM
Sup Gee Sao-10 character Hand
by futsaowingchun
Yesterday at 09:06 PM
2015 European Championship Baku: Finals, streams
by ergees
06/28/15 04:21 PM
Taekwondo loosing it's face/popularity
by EFRAIN
06/17/15 07:44 PM
Don't think aikido is effective self-defense
by Grendal
06/16/15 05:24 PM
Wing Chun's inside information
by futsaowingchun
06/15/15 06:02 PM
Forum Stats
22977 Members
36 Forums
35619 Topics
432573 Posts

Max Online: 424 @ 09/24/13 10:38 PM
Topic Options
#181843 - 08/28/05 01:19 AM Lost?
jc4199 Offline
Member

Registered: 07/10/05
Posts: 362
Loc: Pevely, MO U.S.A
Visited a Dojo today and they were doing Pinan Shodan. It looked nothing like the kata we call Pinan Shodan. Do the different styles use the same name for different katas? Not saying one was wrong but just not the same.
_________________________
Jason
Defeat never comes to any man until he admits it.

Top
#181844 - 08/28/05 06:52 AM Re: Lost? [Re: jc4199]
Victor Smith Offline
Professional Poster

Registered: 06/01/00
Posts: 3220
Loc: Derry, NH
Hi Jason,

Without seeing the Pinan Shodan in question it's hard to know what you saw, but the folliwing might help.

Itosu's original Pinan Shodan when Transplanted to Japan and was Renamed/reworked became Heian NiDan.

Apparently Funakoshi felt the orignal 2nd form was simpler and put it first.

In time I recall reading some other groups felt the same and renamed/reordered Pinan NiDan to Pinan ShoDan, etc.

So perhaps you were seeing one of the groups that switched the first two Pinan kata. Everyone did not do this.

Then again perhaps somebody created new forms and lifted the names. In the contemporary MA scene any answer might be possible anywhere.
_________________________
victor smith bushi no te isshinryu offering free instruction for 30 years

Top
#181845 - 08/28/05 08:36 AM Re: Lost? [Re: Victor Smith]
jc4199 Offline
Member

Registered: 07/10/05
Posts: 362
Loc: Pevely, MO U.S.A
Our Pinan Shodan looks like the first one on this page but we only do 2 open hand blocks at the end. The group I saw yester day Pinan Shodan looked more like the second kata on the same page.
http://www.natkd.com/old_katas.htm

Thanks for the help.
_________________________
Jason
Defeat never comes to any man until he admits it.

Top
#181846 - 08/28/05 09:09 AM Re: Lost? [Re: jc4199]
Kintama Offline
Professional Poster

Registered: 04/17/05
Posts: 2724
Loc: Massachusetts
I think that matches what Victor was saying - some styles reversed the names of the first two katas. not by mistake, but by design.

Top


Moderator:  Cord, MattJ, Reiki 




Action Ads
1.5 Million Plus Page Views
Monthly
Only $89
Details

Self Defense
Offering stun guns, pepper spray, tasers and other self defense products not available in stores.

Pepper Spray
Online distributor of self defense supplies like videos, stun guns, Tasers and more.

Spy Cameras
Surveillance, Hidden Cameras, Nanny Cams, Digital Recorders, Spy Equipment, Pocket DVR's and more

Stun Gun
Wholesale Directlhy to the Public! Stun gun and Taser Guns and personal protection products. Keep your loved ones at home safe!

 

Unbreakable Unbrella

krav maga