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#180493 - 08/22/05 08:35 PM Nunchaku Kata????
b_d_41501 Offline
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Does anyone have any good links to sites that show cool nunchaku katas to do. I just got my nunchaku and I am eager to learn.

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#180494 - 08/22/05 08:51 PM Re: Nunchaku Kata???? [Re: b_d_41501]
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Please define "cool".

Demura has a book out on nunchukas, sai, bo and kama (?). The moves are utilitarian. I suppose you could take some of the material and make something up to impress yer buddies.

Knock yourself out---- er--- figuratively speaking.

Best Wishes,

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#180495 - 08/22/05 08:55 PM Re: Nunchaku Kata???? [Re: glad2bhere]
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Cool as in flashy. And I prolly will knock myself out. lol

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#180496 - 08/22/05 09:42 PM Re: Nunchaku Kata???? [Re: b_d_41501]
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No. In that case I would not call Demuras' kata "cool". They are very basic in the sense of teaching fundamental skills for using nunchukas. There is a pretty good balance between, flailing, blocking, and trapping techniques but they are not what I would call "visually stunning".

Personally, if it were me, I would want to be learning to use a weapon from its pragmatic side, but thats just me. If flash is what you are looking for I bet you would have a lot better luck just keeping your eye open for out-takes of some of the larger International tournaments and then scan through the weapons competitions. The whole idea of many of the "kata" there (and I use the term VERY loosely) is to be visually stunning. All the same I would start out very slowly--- unless of course the idea of having children later in life is something you have already ruled out of your plans.

Best Wishes,

Bruce

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#180497 - 08/22/05 10:01 PM Re: Nunchaku Kata???? [Re: b_d_41501]
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Demuras Kata are actual traditional kata with martial applications. they are not flashy by any means. if you really truly want to learn and understand the nunchaku, find a teacher.
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#180498 - 08/23/05 01:01 PM Re: Nunchaku Kata???? [Re: Chatan1979]
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I would second Chatan on all of that.

Okinawan nunchaku kata have absolutely nothing in common with all that flashy Bruce Lee BS. Or the crap you see on XMA or the Vidal Sassoon breaking and weapon demo shows.

Find a teacher and learn the correct way. Or don't and buy a helmet. Or don't!

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#180499 - 08/23/05 01:13 PM Re: Nunchaku Kata???? [Re: BuDoc]
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Doc,

Of course the correct way were no kata at all. Original study of Okinawan nunchaku did not include kata.

Instructors like Taira Shinken did create basic kata for their teaching structrue.

Then after Danny Insanto taught Bruce Lee nunchaku, and Lee's movies popularized them, incredible effort went into creating the modern baton twirling, etc. Nunchaku kata.

Of course the signs of a modern nunchaku kata is you move a bit (including kicks) then stand still and twirl, then you move a bit more and then stand still and twirl again, and repeat as required.

Essentially correct swinging practice, work on hitting a heavy bag or a tree to understand how they will snap back at you during impact are likely all anyone really needs. Especially as they've been banned in so many places.

And of course how nunchaku can be used for jabbing, or even non-swinging stick work, and the locks with attendnat pain that a nunchaku lock can execute.

Frankly Demura's book on Nunchaku has more than anyone truly needs.
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#180500 - 08/23/05 02:12 PM Re: Nunchaku Kata???? [Re: Victor Smith]
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Nor do you really need two sticks. In Hapkido we have the dan bong or "short stick" with which most people are familiar. However, a gentleman by the name of Geoff Booth has shortened the stick and lengthened the lanyard. The resulting set of techniques which trap and wrap the wrist are incredibly effective as far as pain compliance goes. I mention this because up until the point that I experienced Mr. Booth's material I thought the trapping techniques of the nunchukas were about as effective as one could get. Just a thought.

Best Wishes,

Bruce

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#180501 - 08/24/05 11:58 AM Re: Nunchaku Kata???? [Re: glad2bhere]
b_d_41501 Offline
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I already have an instructor, but I do not learn nunchaku "things" until I progress two more belts. I was just wanting a few things to start me off that look cool.

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#180502 - 08/24/05 03:14 PM Re: Nunchaku Kata???? [Re: Victor Smith]
kenposan Offline
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Quote:

Doc,

Of course the correct way were no kata at all. Original study of Okinawan nunchaku did not include kata.





This is what I have been taught as well, that there were no nunchaku kata back in the day but that some were created later. My style has a couple, and they are quite boring to the eye. But they teach what they are meant to teach, which is how to actually use the weapon, not to look cool.

So, here's a question: Why aren't there any "traditional" nunchaku kata? Why was it trained in differently than, say, bo, sai, tunfa?
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