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#179090 - 08/24/05 05:42 AM Re: 5 Element Theory Basics [Re: Gavin]
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yep indeedy
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#179091 - 08/24/05 05:53 AM Re: 5 Element Theory Basics [Re: shoshinkan]
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Hokay, I'll start with today! Hmmmmmmmm......which point to start with???
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#179092 - 08/24/05 05:59 AM Re: 5 Element Theory Basics [Re: Gavin]
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tail bone area ?
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#179093 - 08/24/05 06:08 AM Re: 5 Element Theory Basics [Re: shoshinkan]
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GIT!!!!!!
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#179094 - 08/25/05 07:00 AM Re: 5 Element Theory Basics [Re: Gavin]
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Hi Gavin,
Sure this will be really useful

Daniel

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#179095 - 08/25/05 09:17 AM Re: 5 Element Theory Basics [Re: shoshinkan]
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Hi all,

Take advice from someone who has been into PP's for several decades.

Ignore the five element theory.

For practicality it is a nonesense and for effectivenes of

PP's it is irrelevent.

Hit any points consequetively and you will get the same

results.

There is no sequence of PP's that does not fit into one of

the theories be it diurnal, 5 element, yin/yang whatever.

So you can hit any in a row and it'll work.

Dont waste yer time on this stuff learn to fight

incorporating PP's as targets, no more.

KG

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#179096 - 08/25/05 09:57 AM Re: 5 Element Theory Basics [Re: kyushoguy]
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Studying Shiatsu means that unfortunately I can't ignore them. I also think it makes an interesting point of discussion for learning more about the human body and the way it works. There's only so much you can say about whapping a specific point. Good for the artistic side too aswell.

He did you start your Kyusho studies with?
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#179097 - 08/25/05 11:13 AM Re: 5 Element Theory Basics [Re: Gavin]
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Gavin - I believe its a higher form of the ART it also encompasses the healing, the Art is not always about fighting. A lot MA that are fighters feels that they don't need the intricate details or the how to.

Growth is still growth but it mean different things to different people.
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#179098 - 08/25/05 01:19 PM Re: 5 Element Theory Basics [Re: Neko456]
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I agree. At this stage in the game, I don't know enough about the mulitude of theories relating to the acupoints to say whether or not one day, when I'm old and grey (well greyer than I am now...Is it right to have grey hair sprouting through at the tender age of 27?????) that I won't be able to combine this principles and be the meanest old bloke on the block. But, whatever use they actually are, I've got to learn them for the healing side of my studies anyway, they can only benefit the Martial side as well.
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#179099 - 09/03/05 07:54 AM Re: 5 Element Theory Basics [Re: Gavin]
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Hi

Yes ive studied healing, rekhi, spititual healing, acupressure etc, and that is what the meridian theories are supposed to relate to.


Bu if you get a serious illness you wont be running to an expert in tcm.

I know it is fun to study these things when your young, and the idea that knowledge is power is something I subscibe to.

But this stuff will take you further away from learning what you actually need to know if you ever get attacked.


A knowledge of the bodies weak points is nessecary for street defence but as i said above find a random combination and it will fit one of the theories.

i.e.You can hit any points in succession to get an effect.

If you know the theories you will see I'm right if you dont you will waste time finding out im right.

your choice.

KG

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