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#177408 - 08/22/05 10:06 AM
Re: Thinking of Leaving TKD
[Re: glad2bhere]
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Registered: 05/09/05
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Dear Eric:
Anyhow, I agree that if a person is not accomplishing the changed in his Self that he has identified as his goals certainly I would counsel that person to consider a change. However, I think the change needs to be a heavily considered change. The person who started the thread indicated, I think, that he started with Karate, and went to TKD and now wants to return to Karate. In the sense of MA training this quite a bit more than just moving from one activity to another. Encouraging a person to make every effort to address why he is not getting what he wants from his training and to make every effort to look inside of himself to be sure there are legitimate reasons to change is a good way to learn more about oneself. That is why I pushed this particular thought, thats all.
Actually, I would have to characterize your posts as "Troll like" because it seems like you missed alot of what was written in the original post.
1)Phantom started in karate
2)Switched to TKD because the karate school MOVED to a new location and was no longer convenient (following the instructor just to be loyal is silly, especially in NYC).
3) Only wants to leave the current school because it lacks things in its curriculum that this person is seeking !
4) Your post below omitts most of the first part of the original post. Go back and read it! This person is doing the write thing. I don't think they made their mind before posting here, I believe that they were exploring all avenues to which will lead them where they want to go. Feels like you just want to be arguementitive.
VDJ
It is not "troll-like" to give the person what they asked for. F-P asked for people's thoughts and that is what he got. As far as everything else you pointed up in your post, I acknowledged all of that information in my posts.
Apparently you think F-P is doing something good for himself. Apparently I think that F-P needs to do something other than what he has decided on. Were you of a mind that I was suppose to automatically agree with what was being said, or do I get to have an opinion of my own? You are welcome to you opinion. Please extend to me the same right.
Best Wishes,
Bruce
Yes you are (and I do respect) entitled to your opinion. But you were the one who referd to the original post as "Troll like", and it clearly isn't ! I don't think that P.F. was sure what to do, I felt that most of your responses came across as not understanding what P.F. was looking for, and therefore did not give P.F. what they were looking for in your responses. It did not seem as though P.F. had made up their mind to leave, but would if a good school could not be found.Where I found your responses to be "Troll like", were in calling P.F.'s original post the very same thing when clearly all they were looking for was some guidance.
VDJ
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#177409 - 08/22/05 01:05 PM
Re: Thinking of Leaving TKD
[Re: glad2bhere]
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Registered: 08/11/05
Posts: 21
Loc: 23-F-NY
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First off, labeling my post as "troll-like" is very judgemental on your part. At the time that I wrote it I was undecided as to whether or not I should stay at the school, or move on. However, taking the time to read the suggestions in this site and taking the time to reply have helped me to think things thoroughly and led me to examine the pros and the cons of me staying at my current dojang, and the cons outweigh the pros. The only 'pro' for me to stay was because of my current rank. That was basically the only driving force that had me feeling committed to staying at my current dojang, nothing else, and that's not really a good enough reason. Even though I wasn't satisfied or content with what I was learning (or not learning rather), I felt compelled to stay because I had already gotten so far. But the amount of progress already made is trivial if you're not happy with what you're doing. That's why I don't care if, after investing all of my time and sweat into achieving my current rank of red belt, I start anew as a white belt in another style, be it traditional TKD, Hapkido, Karate or what have you, as long as I feel I'm learning something useful and not just how to kick for points. So I've decided to move on. Like I said before, no use in continuing to waste their time, my time and money anymore.
By the way, I did start out in Karate/Kickboxing, but the school moved to another location out of state and it wasn't possible for me to continue my training with them. Had it been, I most likely would still be training there today.
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#177410 - 08/22/05 01:27 PM
Re: Thinking of Leaving TKD
[Re: FiGhTiNg_PhAnTom]
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Registered: 08/11/00
Posts: 663
Loc: Lindenhurst, Illinois USA
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Excuse me, but aren't you both being just a TAD touchy on this subject? Read my sentence one more time. Here it is.
"....Maybe I have this wrong but it seems very "troll-like" to ask a question from which you have already decided upon an answer for, yes? Thoughts?...."
"IF"---- I am wrong and you had not decided before asking your question the whole point is moot. Its not like I CALLED you a troll. I suggested that "IF" what was happening actually WAS happening THEN one could be forgiven for viewing your behavior as that of a troll.
Now would you care to explain what you are being so touchy about? Its not like it really makes a huge difference to me WHAT you do, after all. You asked for feedback and you got mine. So why make some Wagnerian Opera out of this.Maybe next time you ask for feedback you will provide guidelines to the Internet World so we can all tell you what it is that you want to hear, the way you want to hear it. Sheesh.
Regards.
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#177411 - 08/22/05 05:22 PM
Re: Thinking of Leaving TKD
[Re: FiGhTiNg_PhAnTom]
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Registered: 01/18/05
Posts: 3260
Loc: Midwest City, Ok, USA
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I think you have made a wise decision and the pro side of this just like your prior Kickboxing and Karate back ground made you excel at Olympic style TKD.
Your current status especially if you stay in a Korean system will propel into this system. Even if you went into Savate or Thai-boxing your back ground would make you excel, even if its just catching on to the principles (really technique wise also). Learn to counter grappling or have fun rolling is a good angle also.
Good luck in your future, it looks fun & bright.
Edited by Neko456 (08/22/05 05:23 PM)
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#177412 - 08/23/05 12:05 AM
Re: Thinking of Leaving TKD
[Re: glad2bhere]
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Registered: 08/11/05
Posts: 21
Loc: 23-F-NY
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Talk about troll-like behavior. First of all, nobody is making a "wagnerian opera" out of this except for maybe you with your passive aggressive and argumentative replies. Obviously you're gonna believe what you want to believe regardless if it's wrong or not, and that's fine. But if you're gonna reply to someone, you're gonna get a response right back and if you don't happen to like what you read, don't undermine it by trying to chuck it up to "touchyness". Oh and by the way, nobody is being touchy here, we're just trying to clarify the matter with you but you obviously have your opinion and mind made up so I won't bother with you anymore. Good day.
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#177413 - 08/23/05 12:22 AM
Re: Thinking of Leaving TKD
[Re: Neko456]
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Registered: 08/11/05
Posts: 21
Loc: 23-F-NY
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Thanks, hopefully my previous training will help me learn at a quicker pace. Not to progress in rank, but in knowledge and skill. If there's one thing I've learned all these years is that the color of belt means nothing. I've seen a buddy of mine who was a blue/red stripe at the time beat a 3rd dan black belt in an inter-school competition my dojang held a while back. After all, it's not the belt that makes the person, but the person that makes the belt.
All I'm going to focus on when I find the right M.A. school is to actually learn what I need to learn to get where I want to be, which is at the point where I truly feel confident enough to know that I can hold my own if I ever my well-being depended on it.
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#177414 - 08/23/05 05:01 AM
Re: Thinking of Leaving TKD
[Re: FiGhTiNg_PhAnTom]
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Registered: 08/13/05
Posts: 15
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Thanks, hopefully my previous training will help me learn at a quicker pace. Not to progress in rank, but in knowledge and skill. If there's one thing I've learned all these years is that the color of belt means nothing. I've seen a buddy of mine who was a blue/red stripe at the time beat a 3rd dan black belt in an inter-school competition my dojang held a while back. After all, it's not the belt that makes the person, but the person that makes the belt.
All I'm going to focus on when I find the right M.A. school is to actually learn what I need to learn to get where I want to be, which is at the point where I truly feel confident enough to know that I can hold my own if I ever my well-being depended on it.
i hope u will find the rite style for you. i trained TKD for over 6 years. but doing that time i wasn't really happy so i just went and practiced different styles. it was eyes opening for me to see that TKD alone is so flaw. WTF is kool but it is only for sport. it has its advantages but come on no hands during sparing  . i practice both ITF/WTF so i know both system. the strengths, and weaknesses of both are almost the same. to be honest TKD is kool if you like to have a cardio workout. i damaged myself so bad while im trying tkd. becareful... shotokan is pretty good too but it is soo brutal. the trainning is brutal haha
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