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#177133 - 02/07/06 09:05 AM Re: Judo Dislocation Necklocks [Re: schanne]
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Registered: 01/25/06
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Just an after thought.

With regards to the dangers of showing un trained people.

The described techniques take practice and practice to perfect.

There are plenty of people who know of the techniques and can use them in a way.

How ever I have rolled/trained with a lot of grapplers.

With most of the grapplers(not all)the techniques could be countered .

Why? because they werent put on correctly.Not perfected.

With this in mind I dont thing someone will get the correct technique just by being shown. There fore its a diffucult question.

I suppose its a balance.

#177134 - 02/08/06 01:52 PM Re: Judo Dislocation Necklocks [Re: BigRod]
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Chanters, I agree with you regarding safety and building a solid foundation of technique.

BUT, different schools/styles operate differently, sometimes completely opposite of each other. They each have their own idea of what "advanced" techniques are and when to teach them.

For example, In BJJ you typically only learn leg locks at Blue Belt and above, for whatever reason. In Sub Wrestling, within a few weeks or a month you'll be learning leg locks. Same thing with the Guillotene in Judo. It wasn't taught to me at all in my Judo school during the entire 3 months I was there. In BJJ I was taught and using it within a month of starting.

Another example. The karate school I used to attend, my instructor said you can't learn anything about swords until you get to Black Belt. But yet I could've gone and joined a local Kendo club and started learning everything I wanted to know about swords from day one.

My point of all this is these "limitations" are somewhat artificial, created by individual instructors or some tradition being carried on for whatever reason.

Once I started attending a variety of different schools, I noticed these sorts of things. What one instructor said I wasn't ready for, another instructor had no problem teaching me. What you can learn and when is completely subjective.

Well out, BR. This has been my experience as well.
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