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#173379 - 07/30/05 07:28 PM What is your art lacking?
SANCHIN31 Offline
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If you could change or add things to your core art what would they be? Why?
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#173380 - 07/30/05 08:48 PM Re: What is your art lacking? [Re: SANCHIN31]
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Good question. I'd say groung fighting because wado kai (like most karate) lacks ground fighting. Which is why in the future I will study an art like BJJ, judo or Greco roman wrestling.
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#173381 - 07/30/05 08:51 PM Re: What is your art lacking? [Re: SANCHIN31]
butterfly Offline
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Sanchin,

Admittedly lacking in grappling (in the former way I used to practice) and in weapons.

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#173382 - 07/30/05 08:59 PM Re: What is your art lacking? [Re: SANCHIN31]
awais786 Offline
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Hmm, i would add some preesure point techiques in my take know do

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#173383 - 07/30/05 09:05 PM Re: What is your art lacking? [Re: SANCHIN31]
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I'd say grappling and throws, also the countering for those are most important.

Maybe some more practical techniques would be nice, but definitely work on grappling and counters more.

Why, well because we don't train a lot on those apsects of MA much at all, and it would be nice to add some more techniques to your aresonal, for when we get a little to close for comfort.

How about you SANCHIN?
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#173384 - 07/30/05 09:15 PM Re: What is your art lacking? [Re: SANCHIN31]
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I've got to say this and I believe it to be true, nothing.
My particular style is not all encompassing, but I believe the true art of karate is.
You have to look at what your art was originally designed to do. Specifically, if you look at boxing, it has all the systems in place to be effective where it was designed to be so. In the ring. In that essence it lacks nothing. As karate was designed to be a civilian self defence system, it has answers to almost every conceivable type of attack you are likely to face in a civilian encounter.
Some people consider that it lacks ground fighting skills.
It does not. They are just rarely practised. Also the principles of the ground fighting techniques are different from those of dedicated groundfighters because the grapplers aim is to keep the fight close or on the ground whereas karate ground fighting is all about escaping the ground. This difference in application is what leads some to believe that karate has no ground work.
So, all in all, I wouldn't change a thing.
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#173385 - 07/30/05 09:29 PM Re: What is your art lacking? [Re: SANCHIN31]
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Every art is perfect in its own right. The question is not what can be added or removed. But rather the question should be, what else can I discover that's "hidden" in MY art.



Edited by SANCHIN31 (07/31/05 12:24 AM)

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#173386 - 07/30/05 09:46 PM Re: What is your art lacking? [Re: eyrie]
Foolsgold Offline
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eyrie- Just ignore him, he's trolling.

Like most TKD people, I really would like to work more handwork into my game. That's okay for now though, because I want to perfect my kicking game and flexibility while I'm young.
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#173387 - 07/30/05 09:47 PM Re: What is your art lacking? [Re: eyrie]
GojuRyuboy13 Offline
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Although I agree with what you guys were saying about the art not lacking anything because of how it approaches situations and what not.

I think the question was more like what would like practice more within your art that you rarely ever do. or something like that.

Like where I study there are takedowns, arm locks, leg locks, pressure points and so on. We rarely practice those, almost never. Besides when we spar if your partner grabs you we try to escape it. If your taken down than it becomes a fight to get on top/on your feet, immediately.

I wish we would work on some of those parts of Goju that aren't practiced as much anymore. But than again I didn't go there to learn how to grab and throw.
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#173388 - 07/30/05 09:49 PM Re: What is your art lacking? [Re: Foolsgold]
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Ignore who?

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