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#173299 - 07/30/05 01:51 PM Nightbreed - a crock
MattJ Offline
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Saw this on Bullshido. OMG. I....you have to read this BS yourself. Unbelievable.

http://www.combatexpert.com/

Will make commentary later when I stop laughing/vomiting.

FINISH THEM!!!!!!


Edited by MattJ (07/30/05 03:17 PM)
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#173300 - 07/30/05 02:05 PM Re: Nightbreed - a crock [Re: MattJ]
funstick5000 Offline
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do you think they're told to make those stupid noises in the video or are their punches just that fast?
one of my favorite 'testimonials':
Quote:

I was a Sergeant in the U.S. Army for 8 years. I was privileged to some of the best hand-to-hand combat training the military had to offer. After leaving the ARMY, I studied Kali for 3 years I believed that I had taken my Martial Arts as far as they could go. Today I believe that Commander Coal Akida offers the finest training program in the world.

Sergeant U.S. Army
Sergeant Chris Spanjol


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#173301 - 07/30/05 02:22 PM Re: Nightbreed - a crock [Re: funstick5000]
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Loc: California
Those sounds they make... wieeerd! Why would anyone sound so idiotic in a fight? Are they trying to take their opponent's concentration away by making them laugh?

"The simple fact is that Nightbreed is the result of 12 years of Classified Research - 18 thousand hours of Development and a set of Combat skills that I have personaly tested in over 1 million Combat Engagements."

One MILLION??? Personally? Man, that guy knows how to pick a fight!

"I consider myself to be the world's top authority on Hand to Hand combat and can prove the skills of Nightbreed to the best fighters in the world."

The best? This guy really knows how to sell himself.

Have you noticed how many spelling mistakes and grammatical errors there are on that site? If it's such a great system and they really want people to join up, why don't they pay enough attention to proof read the site selling it?

Not one of the links to further information works.

The only quote I would treat with any legitimacy would be the one by Leonard C. Holifield, and that could easily be a fake too.

It stinks of scam, it screams con job. This kind of misleading rubbish disgusts me.
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#173302 - 07/30/05 02:30 PM Re: Nightbreed - a crock [Re: MattJ]
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Man, if you ever turn me on to another video like that I will personally track you down and break wind on your head.

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#173303 - 07/30/05 02:32 PM Re: Nightbreed - a crock [Re: Leo_E_49]
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*ahem* I think the bull$h!t is pretty obvious in that program. The site has to be a joke.
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#173304 - 07/30/05 02:35 PM Re: Nightbreed - a crock [Re: Fletch1]
Intrepidinv1 Offline
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Fletch, I read the article in Black Belt. I like the system. Which one of them is you?

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#173305 - 07/30/05 02:41 PM Re: Nightbreed - a crock [Re: Leo_E_49]
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Registered: 06/29/05
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Quote:

he only quote I would treat with any legitimacy would be the one by Leonard C. Holifield




You mean this Leonard C. Holifield:
Prof. Leonard C. Holifield - PH.D/MA., Soke
9th Dan Black Belt Sikaron Karate
6th Dan Black Belt Hapkido
ESI Certified Defensive Tactics Instructor / Protection Specialist
Founder - Sikaron Karate Federation
Founder - Int'l Academy of Executive Security Self Defense
Founder - Int'l Academy of Police & Military Self Defense

9th degree black belt? He doesn't look 80 to me. Also no one puts both MA and Ph.D. (note his spelling of PH.D) after their name, that would be like signing with both 3rd and 4th dan. Also anyone with a real Ph.D. does not list their title as Dr. XXXX, Ph.D. or Prof. XXXX, Ph.D. It's redundant. Finally, you never put a Ph.D. after your name in an unrelated field and I've never met anyone with a genuine Ph.D. in martial arts (no dissertation, no real degree). People who do this are misrepresenting themselves and are often very pompous (I never allow myself to be referred to as Dr. in a martial arts venue as that's not what my Ph.D. is in). So even if his relationship to Mr. Holifield is true I'm certainly not impressed.

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#173306 - 07/30/05 02:47 PM Re: Nightbreed - a crock [Re: Canyon]
Leo_E_49 Offline
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Registered: 02/24/05
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Loc: California
It says "Soke", meaning he created his own style, I wouldn't place any real value in that 9th Dan. However, I can possibly believe the 6th Dan HKD. At least that guy has references in websites other than the one listed. I'm not going to argue credentials, my point is that there's no other moderately respectable/valuable testemonials there. I.e. it stinks of lies.

Whether those are his words though, I don't know. I could easily make something up and put his name after it as could anyone else.
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#173307 - 07/30/05 02:58 PM Re: Nightbreed - a crock [Re: Leo_E_49]
MattJ Offline
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This one is for you, Fletch -

Quote:

Keep in mind that the Ground Fighting System developed at Nightbreed is completely the oposite of what the Gracies Jui Jit Su would teach you to do, are moves are based on a much more advanced series of combat skills developed at Nightbreed.




Right! What do the Gracies know!

This one is for you, BuDoc -

Quote:

Coal's training methods are extremely intense, but safe - a musician like myself, a surgeon, or anyone can safely train in the Nightbreed system.

The one-on-one training with Coal, being exposed to the drills he has developed, and observing and experiencing his command of the Combat Skills at Nightbreed is unforgettable experience, one I would highly recommend to anyone that wants to, and is prepared to become a better fighter than they ever dreamed.

First Chair Oboe Player ( Cleveland Orchestra )
Jeff Rathburn




Oboe players are t3h d34dly, you know.

This one is for....I don't know, it's just stupid -

Quote:

The next major break through came shortly after a few months of having a baseball bat being swung at my head with enough intensity to kill me.


I found that I needed to develop a way to disperse the impact evenly across the core of the body. After several isolated months working with the baseball bat, I had developed what I now call today -- Cohesion Absorption Technology C.A.T.



This new skill would allow me to withstand the heaviest of blows. This skill eliminated both the jarring of the brain and the shock to the body.




Right! Who wants to go first?


Hey guys, look....no contracts. So it MUST be legit.

*throws self off top of tall building*


Edited by MattJ (07/30/05 03:21 PM)

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#173308 - 07/30/05 03:27 PM Re: Nightbreed - a crock [Re: MattJ]
funstick5000 Offline
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Registered: 07/16/05
Posts: 759
Loc: West Yorkshire, England
Quote:

Cohesion Absorption Technology C.A.T.




Right! Who wants to go first?



ooh! ooh! me! me! pick me!!

i wouldn't trust anybody who puts that much time into creating abrreviations that neat.
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