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#172802 - 04/23/08 11:45 AM Re: A post for those who might become martial arti [Re: Leo_E_49]
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[quoteIf you're looking for a guarantee that you won't be hurt, all you have to do is avoid violence in the first place.




short of the low probability but high visibility mugging and higher chance of rape this is 99.9% fool-proof. Those exceptions historically carried a low probability of a trained assailant but that is changing.
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#172803 - 04/24/08 08:16 AM Re: A post for those who might become martial arti [Re: jeff_andle]
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higher chance of rape this is 99.9% fool-proof. Those exceptions historically carried a low probability of a trained assailant but that is changing.





Where do rapists get trained?
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#172804 - 04/28/08 09:40 AM Re: A post for those who might become martial arti [Re: trevek]
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your answer is the media... plain and simple (i hope) and probably something to do with parents/family....
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#172805 - 04/28/08 10:17 AM Re: A post for those who might become martial arti [Re: preangel]
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your answer is the media... plain and simple (i hope) and probably something to do with parents/family....




The media does not train rapists, make kids commit suicide or anything else that sick, twisted people weren't already going to do anyway.
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#172806 - 04/28/08 10:38 AM Re: A post for those who might become martial arti [Re: MattJ]
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Sorry Matt but have to disagree on that one.
The media's obsession with fame, beauty, success etc often means that many people - and children are particularly susceptible - feel inadequate in their lives. Its added stress that hormone driven, stressed, examed-out kids don't need and all of this can drive to depression and suicide.
It's also possibly the media obsession with sex and showing as much skin as possible that can drive inadequate men to force sex on vulnerable women.

I know the media doesn't train rapists but by insisting on giving us the goriest details of any such crime they do give others ideas of how to act out their sick fantasies.
I for one neither need nor want to know the details of these sick acts and believe the media have far too much power in our society. They have a lot to answer for.

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#172807 - 04/28/08 10:42 AM Re: A post for those who might become martial arti [Re: puffadder]
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Puffadder -

I think you are missing my point. People that would be susceptible to the "media" influencing them have serious mental problems. ANYTHING would set them off - the media, a song, a picture, someone looking at them the wrong way, a bad grade, a red light, someone driving too fast, someone walking too slow, etc......

You can't blame normal things for setting off crazy people.
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#172808 - 04/28/08 11:27 AM Re: A post for those who might become martial arti [Re: MattJ]
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On that point I agree but the media is largely responsible for the society we live in. From the way fat people are portrayed as lazy and stupid to how advertisers create insecurities in women by comparing them to airbrushed models to sell moisturising creams and the way newspapers dramatize every crime to make it appear as if there's a paedophile on every street corner so kids aren't allowed to play outside any more. Nobody seems to think they exist unless they're on TV these days. Politicians every action depends on how they think the reporters will cover it. Don't tell me the media don't have an influence on street crime. Muggers and rapists are well aware of the probablilty of them being caught, tactics of how to carry out their schemes and the penalties if they do get caught. They know all this from the media who love to report on these details.
I don't think we're going to agree on this one.

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#172809 - 04/28/08 01:21 PM Re: A post for those who might become martial arti [Re: puffadder]
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You both have good points, but could you please start another thread to discuss it? This thread is dedicated to beginners' inquiries about MA training.
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#172810 - 06/17/08 09:28 AM Re: A post for those who might become martial arti [Re: Leo_E_49]
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Are there any books are articles on this topic? Any recommendations?
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#172811 - 07/19/08 09:16 AM Re: A post for those who might become martial arti [Re: Aaron_Newsome]
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