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#172712 - 07/29/05 03:21 PM A post for those who might become martial artists.
Leo_E_49 Offline
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Wow 1000 posts! I spend WAAAY too much time posting here.

I think for this post I will outline my advice to beginners in MA, the ones who may read but feel too shy to post here.

Studying martial arts is a fulfilling and challenging experience which I would reccommend for anyone of any fitness and age group. Martial arts training can span a lifetime, going from learning to teaching and exploring philosophy and theory. In my experience martial arts have built my character as a person and have taught me many valuable lessons which have helped me in daily life. If you are even slightly inclined to considering studying the martial arts, my advice would be to go for it.

Although there is much popularity given to martial arts today, there is also a large amount of misinformation too. Martial arts do not work like in the movies but they do provide tools which the average person can use to defend themselves, if used properly. Martial arts do not generally have connections to religion, so don't be put off by that thought. Customs in martial arts, such as bowing and wearing funny clothes , are done to show respect for teachers and other students and to preserve the heritage of crafts which may be many hundreds of years old.

Martial arts are inherently linked to fighting, however, most martial artists I have met will avoid fighting unless it cannot be avoided. The same cannot be said for many untrained people who feel the need to "prove themselves" and do not have the self confidence which martial arts can give to someone. Martial arts use simple principles of physics and anatomy to improve our ability to fight, restrain people and defend ourselves. These are not the only benefits to be gained from martial arts training, others include:
- Fitness and agility
- Self confidence/respect
- Self control
- Better awareness of our surroundings
- Being part of a friendly community
- And many more

If you are interested in starting martial arts training, the best way to do this is to seek a qualified instructor and learn first hand. Learning from books and DVDs is not a good idea for a beginner, the same as you would not try to learn how to drive a car just by reading a book on it (without ever stepping into a car). The best way to go about finding a school is to look in the local yellow pages under "Martial Arts" and do a search on www.google.com for martial arts in your area. It helps to show some initiative by doing the above before posting on the forum, you will get a better response if you do. Also, please use the search function http://www.fightingarts.com/ubbthreads/search.php?Cat=0 to find the answer to your questions before posting a thread here, many people have probably encountered the same queries as yourself before.

Let me say what everyone will tell you about choosing a martial art. No matter what you want to train for, there is no such thing as a "best" martial art. They are all different and good at what they train in.

In general, there are three groups of martial arts: striking arts, grappling arts and weapon arts. Each of these kinds of arts teach a different range of fighting. Striking arts focus on hitting the opponent with different parts of your body. Grappling arts teach how to throw, choke and lock various joints of an opponent. Weapon arts teach how to use and care for various weapons, ranging from sticks to bows and everything else in between. The best way to choose a school is to go there and ask about free introductory lessons, most schools will give you one or two lessons free to see whether you like the art. Ask the instructor as many questions as you can about the art to clear up any mystery or apprehension you have about the art.

Don't go to classes where abusive, restrictive or narrowminded behaviour occurs. Ask around for opinions of martial artists you know or at martial arts stores in the area. If you can't do that, ask on the forum, if you explain yourself you will get a friendly and helpful answer. Many schools are difficult to find and do not advertise much. Often such schools train in community centres or even in universities, if you look carefully you will find them in the darnedest places.

A word of warning, there are plenty of scams out there. If the instructor makes outrageous claims or if there is too much money spent on advertising, be wary. If the fees are outrageous or the school is understaffed (too many students for the teachers to handle) or it has very restrictive binding contracts, it may be a McDojo, and one to avoid. Ask around and research about the average price of martial arts training in your area to judge whether you are comfortable with a certain school's fees. Make sure to ask about additional costs, such as grading and uniform/equipment prices.

There are also a number of martial arts cults which can be avoided by asking the instructor plenty of questions and reading up on them. If you have any worries about a school, ask on the forum, many people here are qualified to advise you.

However, knowledge is power and you can weed out these types of schools with a little research.

Most of the time you will not have to prepare to begin a martial art, you will be taught from scratch in most schools you go to. Being fit does help though, as does doing your own research into the background behind martial arts.

For many people, training once or twice a week is all they can manage, which is perfectly fine. For others, they don't even consider training every day for several hours to be enough. Find a training schedule which you are comfortable with. Many people go on to make martial arts a part of their lives (I know it has been a big part of my life and always will be), it can be a guiding force in your life and can be a great release from the stress of daily life.

You do not necessarily have to fight to train in martial arts. In fact, if you don't want to in many countries it's your legal right to never have contact during training. Some people decide they want to go into full contact training and that's fine too. You should note that if you go into a grappling art, you will have to be put in close contact with a training partner and learn how to fall on the ground safely (which can be a little painful at first). In my opinion however, the benefits of being able to fall safely outweight the minor costs.

If you are seeking martial arts for self defense, search for a school which deals with it specifically. Usually these train in scenario work and teach issues other than just fighting, such as how to avoid danger and how to escape it. Similarly, if you want to train for sport or competition, find a school which trains for that. You will be more satisfied if you do find an appropriate school.

The most important thing is to find an art and a school which suits you.

I wish you all the best with your training whatever you choose and I hope that you will have as fulfilling and enlightening experience as I have had (and continue to have) with the martial arts.

Also take a look at these excellent articles on beginning martial arts: http://www.fightingarts.com/reading/article.php?id=4.
http://martialarts.about.com/od/choosingaschool/ht/howtoschool.htm
http://martialarts.about.com/od/childrensmartialarts/ht/howtokids.htm
http://www.focusonyourchild.com/entertain/art1/A0000622.html

Seeing as this is my 1000th post, I have tried to make it a meaningful one. I would like to request that a moderator/administrator please make this post into a sticky thread so that those people who are vaguely interested in the arts and read the forum but do not post may have some information which may help them in their pursuit of training.


Edited by Leo_E_49 (07/29/05 05:24 PM)
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#172713 - 07/29/05 03:35 PM Re: A post for those who might become martial artists. [Re: Leo_E_49]
Dereck Offline
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Nicely done Leo ... and to think all I did was whine at my 1000 post about no parade and no cake. Though I did get a cyber hug and fondle that made it all better. Good job.
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#172714 - 07/29/05 03:40 PM Re: A post for those who might become martial artists. [Re: Leo_E_49]
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Congrats on your first kilo!
Applause to your newbie guide!
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#172715 - 07/29/05 04:09 PM Re: A post for those who might become martial artists. [Re: Kintama]
MattJ Offline
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Nice job Leo! I am putting this one up for everyone to read.
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#172716 - 07/29/05 05:35 PM Re: A post for those who might become martial artists. [Re: MattJ]
Cord Offline
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'thats an interesting question, I suggest you refer to the thread by Leo at the top of the page'

Not as immediate as our current blanket post, but it will grow on me

Good work fella!
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#172717 - 07/29/05 11:25 PM Re: A post for those who might become martial artists. [Re: Leo_E_49]
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From your neighbour, Good Work Lah! You so free Ah?
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#172718 - 07/29/05 11:28 PM Re: A post for those who might become martial artists. [Re: Cord]
Bushi_no_ki Offline
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Eh, our blanket post still works for smart alecky questions. The real people who are interested in actually studying are worth answering.

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#172719 - 07/30/05 03:32 AM Re: A post for those who might become martial artists. [Re: Leo_E_49]
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Awesome.
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#172720 - 07/31/05 01:06 AM Re: A post for those who might become martial arti [Re: Foolsgold]
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Two thumbs up!

And unlike Ebert and Roeper that statement coming from me actually has meaning and is valid.
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#172721 - 08/01/05 09:21 AM Re: A post for those who might become martial artists. [Re: Leo_E_49]
horizon Offline
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Hi Leo,

until now I was just one of thos beginners looking at the forum but the shy to post something. Your post gave me a good oppertunity to react.
As I said, I am still a beginner, I started Karate a year ago, when I just moved to London. Having no social life and as I felt the need to do some good excercise this was a good oppertunity to start something new. I joined a dojo just around the corner from where I live, and from the first moment I was addicted. I didn't only gain a better physical health, I also made a lot of new friends and my social life was suddenly developing high speed.
Almost a year later I could not do without it anymore and I am always excited before every class, even saturday mornings (which is quite something as I am not a morning person!).
The only thing I regret is the fact I never picked it up earlier (I started when I was 24) but hey, better late then never.

Cheers, Kim
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#172722 - 08/01/05 12:44 PM Re: A post for those who might become martial arti [Re: horizon]
Leo_E_49 Offline
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Good on you mate! I'm glad you're enjoying yourself and have got so much from MA training. Best of luck and keep up the good work!
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#172723 - 08/01/05 01:28 PM Re: A post for those who might become martial arti [Re: Leo_E_49]
horizon Offline
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Thanks!
(and for the record, I am a girl
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#172724 - 08/01/05 04:40 PM Re: A post for those who might become martial arti [Re: horizon]
Leo_E_49 Offline
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ask any Australian, "mate"'s that word you call people you don't know well. The way they use it over there doesn't really imply gender, so I figured it'd be ok to use it here (since you can't really tell gender on the net, some people like passing themselves off as the other gender you know ). (I used to study in an Australian school)

(Plus, your gender isn't listed on your bio )


Edited by Leo_E_49 (08/01/05 04:41 PM)
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#172725 - 08/02/05 04:04 AM Re: A post for those who might become martial arti [Re: Leo_E_49]
horizon Offline
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My mistake . Thanks for clarifying. Just filled in a bit on my bio now

I will keep up the good work, and the occasional bruices (spelled ok??, sorry am not a native english speaker) are definately worth it.
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#172726 - 08/02/05 03:07 PM Re: A post for those who might become martial arti [Re: horizon]
Leo_E_49 Offline
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Due to recent developments I'm going to make an ammendment to my original post.

For all of you there who are thinking of creating a new martial art. Martial arts are not created by any one person. Of course there is an instigator of a certain martial art, a founder perhaps. However, over generations arts develop by having to stand up to the scrutiny of the artists. These many martial artists create the art, not just one person.

The founders of arts which persist are naturally people who have dedicated their lives to martial arts. Recent examples are Bruce Lee and Helio Gracie (and the Gracie family). These arts have a solid foundation in reality and are often created through trial and error. The founders of these arts did not just create them by chucking a mish mash of existing arts together. They had goals. These artists were often disillusioned with the way their previous arts were taught and wanted to correct what they saw as the problems with the older arts. They also had real experience in the arts. If you want an example of how one person's goal changed a martial art, look at how JKD is different from Wing Chun, those fundamental differences (especially the philosophy of JKD) were clearly created by someone who thought often and deeply about them.

If you want to create a martial art worth its salt, I suggest you start with a smaller goal, such as learning a martial art under a real qualified instructor first hand (i.e. no self teaching, no videos or books, real martial arts training). Then after a few years think carefully about what you would do to improve it. Then move onto another martial art and so on.

It takes a very special person to create a comprehensive fighting and philosophical system which can be deemed a martial art. I'll not discount the fact that there may be someone out there who is going to create the next accepted martial art but it will be someone with a lot of martial arts experience and their own goals and criticisms as well as justifications to back them up. I'm sure it's a lot of hard work and not really a lot of fun but I might be wrong. Whatever it is, it won't be accepted if only you practice it so don't forget that after that you have to start teaching (probably full time) which means sacrificing any thought of a real life or a well paying job (unless you made bullshido).

My goal with this post is to bring those people with their heads in the sky back to reality. If you really want to create a new martial art which will be accepted by people in general and will be valued, get working, you've got your hands full with the job.


Edited by Leo_E_49 (08/02/05 03:13 PM)
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#172727 - 10/11/05 09:56 PM Re: A post for those who might become martial arti [Re: Leo_E_49]
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Quote:

Due to recent developments I'm going to make an ammendment to my original post.

For all of you there who are thinking of creating a new martial art. Martial arts are not created by any one person. Of course there is an instigator of a certain martial art, a founder perhaps. However, over generations arts develop by having to stand up to the scrutiny of the artists. These many martial artists create the art, not just one person.





This point was once described to me in a slightly different manner:

Ancient martial arts thrived because they work. If a technique did not work, it was not passed on from generation to generation. As well, if the technique did not work, the practictioners were often dead as a result.

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#172728 - 11/16/05 11:56 AM Re: A post for those who might become martial arti [Re: Leo_E_49]
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I agree with everything in this post except "too much money being spent on advertising". Someone please elaborate because in my thinking, it sounds like you're saying "if a school cares too much about getting new students, it's a mcdojo". Quite frankly, I feel that the word McDojo is thrown around too easily. But, I'm probably misinterpreting what the original poster meant, so if someone would clarify that for me, I'd apreciate it.
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#172729 - 11/17/05 04:19 PM Re: A post for those who might become martial arti [Re: steelwater]
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It might be better to say "if a school cares too much about getting new students' money, it may be classed as a McDojo".

If they're neglecting other costs to spend on advertising, such as not purchasing new equipment or not repairing damaged equipment, it's likely a McDojo. Basically, if it seems that their primary aim is to get new students to pay them, you should be wary. You may be able to find just as good quality instruction elsewhere for a much lower price. The whole McDojo issue is very subjective so use your best judgement. If you can't decide ask for other people's opinions on the Dojo, or ask on these forums.
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#172730 - 11/17/05 04:27 PM Re: A post for those who might become martial arti [Re: Leo_E_49]
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Yeah, I can see your point now. Thanks for clearing that up! Nice article, btw.
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#172731 - 11/17/05 04:33 PM Re: A post for those who might become martial arti [Re: steelwater]
Leo_E_49 Offline
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Thanks.
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#172732 - 12/01/05 11:37 PM Re: A post for those who might become martial arti [Re: Leo_E_49]
Taison Offline
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This may be a little to late but I just read it
So in Singlish [English + Singaporean]:
"This is a good post lah".

From your neighbour a block away. [You know, we got Malaysia inbetween us, but that doesn't stop us being neighbours.]

-Taison out
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#172733 - 12/03/05 12:06 PM Re: A post for those who might become martial arti [Re: Taison]
Leo_E_49 Offline
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Haha thanks!
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#172734 - 12/05/05 11:16 PM Re: A post for those who might become martial arti [Re: Taison]
Taison Offline
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Quote:

"This is a good post lah".




Re-phrase:

"wah lao! Good post lah"

-Taison out
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#172735 - 12/16/05 12:29 PM Re: A post for those who might become martial arti [Re: Polarhound]
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Quote:

Quote:

Due to recent developments I'm going to make an ammendment to my original post.

For all of you there who are thinking of creating a new martial art. Martial arts are not created by any one person. Of course there is an instigator of a certain martial art, a founder perhaps. However, over generations arts develop by having to stand up to the scrutiny of the artists. These many martial artists create the art, not just one person.





This point was once described to me in a slightly different manner:

Ancient martial arts thrived because they work. If a technique did not work, it was not passed on from generation to generation. As well, if the technique did not work, the practictioners were often dead as a result.




Starting a new art that will be accepted by many is very difficult nowadays. I havenīt tried it, but I have had a very unorthodox history with martial arts. I got a black belt in Shurinryu from someone who studied in the service, which many people are just hearing about today in the U.S. anyway. I did most of my study one on one. Once you do that itīs hard to go back to a school, because the school is usually just too slow--unfortunately. People in schools can afford to be more sloppy too. As a result of lack of satisfaction with schools, since then I have learned through very long workshops, through videos, and through some classes. When I was young there wasnīt any such thing as distance learning of martial arts and things like that. Now the stuff is amazing. You can learn forms and self defense techniques and then go and show them to the head instructor and practice and correct them and then you have it. I find this fascinating. When I started MA I started at the Y, of course, with Tae Kwando. Everything was secret back then. You couldnīt learn anything. Now everything is open for the person who has the discipline and tenacity to learn it. If anyone wants to do MA for their health, a spiritual discipline or just to learn to defend themselves, the door is open even if they canīt afford the high prices.
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#172736 - 01/01/06 04:29 PM A post for those who might become martial artists. [Re: Leo_E_49]
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Hello Leo:

Congradulations on your accomplishment! (1000 posts... wow)

I would like to offer two minor clarifications to your thoughts if I might.

With regard to uniforms, they are functional for several reasons. They make no disticntion between gender, or ones financial status (or lack). Everyone is wearing the identical canvas material, satin material whatever the case might be. In that way everyone is equalized. In that manner uniforms are of value.

Secondly, one aspect of training which some have difficulty clarifying, is the question of "why" they wish to train. For some indeed, it is a simple question of perception/fear. Whether either have objective validity might perhaps be a very different question.

I propose one thing (regardless of ones disposition/predisposition towards combat, fighting) would be the issue of drawing our boundries. I contend that regardless of our goals, whether known or otherwise... I contend that as a direct and specific product of training, all of us learn how to ~draw the lines in the sand~. Whatever realm that might be physical, emotional whatever the case because we learn how to physically assert ourselves, protect oneself against our training partners... how difficult are the outside world challenges compairatively?

Jeff

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#172737 - 01/19/06 01:53 PM Re: A post for those who might become martial artists. [Re: Leo_E_49]
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It is quite late for me, but: Congratulations!!!
Hard mind work you did!
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#172738 - 01/19/06 04:53 PM Re: A post for those who might become martial artists. [Re: Leo_E_49]
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That was one of the most intelligent posts I have seen in a long time. Never waste your money on a DVD that shows you all the "secrets", a school that wants to charge you all kinds of fees for belts, starter kits etc.

Another point I would like to add for students intrested in working out, never buy "stacks" from the bodybuilding shop, or the new "wonder supplement", 99% of the time it is all garbage. I stand by protein and only protein. It is the only thing you need when you eat right, and eating is the most important part. I started training young, I wish I could get the thousands I spent back now.
Good Luck




Edited by JoelM (01/19/06 10:51 PM)

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#172739 - 04/25/06 07:07 PM Re: A post for those who might become martial artists. [Re: Leo_E_49]
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Great info! Well done!
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#172740 - 05/27/06 09:38 PM Re: A post for those who might become martial artists. [Re: Leo_E_49]
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Thanks.Great info. I am probably as green as they come. I have always been interested in the MA, but just recently decided to take a course. I did the reserch and found what you were talking about. High prices and blackbelt factories.I setteled on the only teacher in my town. The others I was reserching was 25-65 miles away.I took my first free lesson last night, have one more tuesday night, and then I am going to join. I was immediatly hooked. I chose Tang Soo Do. And I have to say, even though I am VERY sore today, I had a blast. My instructor has the patience of Job.Very kind man.
I'll let you know how it goes and how I progress.
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#172741 - 09/23/06 01:30 PM Re: A post for those who might become martial artists. [Re: crescentkick]
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very nice post. i'd like to add one thing to it. well maybe two.
1 ..dont be in a hurry to get anywhere, just enjoy the ride, relax, and you'll probably find yourself learning faster than you thought.
2..even in a sport art, dont concentrate solely on being better than other people, concentrate instead on improving yourself at all times. in this, you will always succeed. but nothing can ever guarantee you will win a fight, or a tournament. and the better you are, the more you improve yourself, your timing, your technique, your understanding...wins will come more naturally.
thanks
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#172742 - 09/23/06 01:34 PM Re: A post for those who might become martial arti [Re: kempo_jujitsu]
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Good advice indeed.
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#172743 - 09/27/06 02:03 AM Re: A post for those who might become martial arti [Re: Leo_E_49]
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Thank you for posting this. I've ben doing some research on martial arts recently and have become quite interested. I think I will really persue this now. It seems that Aikido is the best choice for me so far. Just letting you know that you helped a total martial arts newbie out! Thanks again.
-Ryan

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#172744 - 10/04/06 10:51 AM Re: A post for those who might become martial arti [Re: Ryan123]
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My pleasure. Glad to hear you found an MA which is right for you.


Edited by Leo_E_49 (10/04/06 10:52 AM)
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#172745 - 10/11/06 01:17 AM Re: A post for those who might become martial artists. [Re: Leo_E_49]
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Martial arts are inherently linked to fighting, however, most martial artists I have met will avoid fighting unless it cannot be avoided. The same cannot be said for many untrained people who feel the need to "prove themselves" and do not have the self confidence which martial arts can give to someone. Martial arts use simple principles of physics and anatomy to improve our ability to fight, restrain people and defend ourselves. These are not the only benefits to be gained from martial arts training, others include:
- Fitness and agility
- Self confidence/respect
- Self control
- Better awareness of our surroundings
- Being part of a friendly community
- And many more

Let me say what everyone will tell you about choosing a martial art. No matter what you want to train for, there is no such thing as a "best" martial art. They are all different and good at what they train in.


The best way to choose a school is to go there and ask about free introductory lessons, most schools will give you one or two lessons free to see whether you like the art. Ask the instructor as many questions as you can about the art to clear up any mystery or apprehension you have about the art.

Don't go to classes where abusive, restrictive or narrowminded behaviour occurs. Ask around for opinions of martial artists you know or at martial arts stores in the area. If you can't do that, ask on the forum, if you explain yourself you will get a friendly and helpful answer. Many schools are difficult to find and do not advertise much. Often such schools train in community centres or even in universities, if you look carefully you will find them in the darnedest places.

A word of warning, there are plenty of scams out there. If the instructor makes outrageous claims or if there is too much money spent on advertising, be wary. If the fees are outrageous or the school is understaffed (too many students for the teachers to handle) or it has very restrictive binding contracts, it may be a McDojo, and one to avoid. Ask around and research about the average price of martial arts training in your area to judge whether you are comfortable with a certain school's fees. Make sure to ask about additional costs, such as grading and uniform/equipment prices.

There are also a number of martial arts cults which can be avoided by asking the instructor plenty of questions and reading up on them. If you have any worries about a school, ask on the forum, many people here are qualified to advise you.

However, knowledge is power and you can weed out these types of schools with a little research.

Most of the time you will not have to prepare to begin a martial art, you will be taught from scratch in most schools you go to. Being fit does help though, as does doing your own research into the background behind martial arts.

You do not necessarily have to fight to train in martial arts. In fact, if you don't want to in many countries it's your legal right to never have contact during training. Some people decide they want to go into full contact training and that's fine too. You should note that if you go into a grappling art, you will have to be put in close contact with a training partner and learn how to fall on the ground safely (which can be a little painful at first). In my opinion however, the benefits of being able to fall safely outweight the minor costs.

If you are seeking martial arts for self defense, search for a school which deals with it specifically. Usually these train in scenario work and teach issues other than just fighting, such as how to avoid danger and how to escape it. Similarly, if you want to train for sport or competition, find a school which trains for that. You will be more satisfied if you do find an appropriate school.

The most important thing is to find an art and a school which suits you.




Well written, but it is sad that many beginners are lured by hype, fad, and the desire to fight.

After 40 years+ as a martial artist, I still feel that I am a beginner is some ways

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#172746 - 11/03/06 07:27 AM Re: A post for those who might become martial artists. [Re: horizon]
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Thanks for the great post. I am glad that you all are making posts like these to guide us beginners

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#172747 - 11/06/06 03:53 AM Re: A post for those who might become martial arti [Re: Leo_E_49]
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Hey dude your post was most informative.
My whole life i have been fascinated with martial arts since i was a little boy watching Bruce lee with my father, i took a class on kung fu movies in college, and watch them frequently with my friends. In the past i have studied tae kwan do and ju jisu for a few months or so.

Me and my friends are going to study a few types with a friend who has 3rd degree belts in a some of the styles. We are all very excited. We wish to one day master Hung gar i believe it is called and pretty much expand our knowledge as much as we can.

I was wondering of any at home training i can do to help better my body and mind for the learning of the arts?

So far we are going to start learning the IRON PALM

Thank you

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#172748 - 11/06/06 11:00 AM Re: A post for those who might become martial arti [Re: Drewdakiss]
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I was wondering of any at home training i can do to help better my body and mind for the learning of the arts?




Speak to your instructor about this. It varies from art to art. He/she will be able to advise you about it.
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#172749 - 11/06/06 01:33 PM Re: A post for those who might become martial arti [Re: Drewdakiss]
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Besides things mentioned specifically by your instructor you could also do wieght training and cardio work. Browse through the strengthening forum and go to a gym to learn more. Probably any exercise (riding a bike, running, bodywieght, stretching etc.) would help.
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#172750 - 11/08/06 06:27 PM Re: A post for those who might become martial arti [Re: jamesjj]
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Thank you all for your help
I was still curious as to other kinds of training other than basic gym style work outs i will definitively start working out to get in better shape to prepare for this.

Any other types of IRON PALM style practices

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#172751 - 12/03/06 02:21 AM Re: A post for those who might become martial artists. [Re: Kintama]
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Right on target!!! this was such a good piece of advice I printed it off for my students to read.

Keep it up.
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#172752 - 12/05/06 10:48 AM Re: A post for those who might become martial arti [Re: ddoa01]
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Always good to hear when people appreciate good advice.
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#172753 - 01/14/07 09:15 AM Re: A post for those who might become martial arti [Re: Leo_E_49]
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I'm new to the forum- this is a great site !
I am 27 years old and I am looking to study martial arts.
I did study Takewando about 12 years ago for about a year and half. I'm just not sure what art I want to learn now. This time around I want to attempt to master the art as much as I can, so I'm being extremely picky with my choices. I am hoping to hear some sound advice/recommendations based on my interests from people a lot more educated in the arts then me . My main objective is to learn this for defense/counter measures. I am looking for a style that is dangerously fierce. I hope to never get in another fight in my lifetime, but if i do I need to be able to defend accordingly. I loved performing Helicopter kicks in my younger days, but in reality they can rarely be used. I like performing striking moves, and I do not prefer to take things to the ground. I know thats were most things take place, but I dont want to train daily for that.

I am looking for a style that focuses on defense and counters
I am looking for a style with quick/ effective striking

I'm not looking for a spiritual or philological experience.
( although that usually does comes with the territory)

I'm not looking for something with excessive grappling/ wrestling or submission. If things go down... I prefer the ground and pound approach over a submission.


I was thinking about Aikido or Judo.
Kickboxing seems right up my alley , but the only places I have seen in my area tend to be more of an exercise class then a martial art.


Any advice or suggestions would greatly be appreciated.

Thanks guys !

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#172754 - 01/14/07 11:15 AM Re: A post for those who might become martial arti [Re: Boxer99]
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It sounds like you should look into studying Muay Thai if those are your objectives. Try PMing Taison about it, he's the expert.
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#172755 - 03/27/07 03:35 AM Re: A post for those who might become martial arti [Re: Boxer99]
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I am looking for a style that focuses on defense and counters
I am looking for a style with quick/ effective striking

I'm not looking for a spiritual or philological experience.
I'm not looking for something with excessive grappling/ wrestling or submission. If things go down... I prefer the ground and pound approach over a submission.

I was thinking about Aikido or Judo.
Kickboxing seems right up my alley , but the only places I have seen in my area tend to be more of an exercise class then a martial art.



Spot on to know what you're looking for! No offense against Aikido or Judo, both I have a lot of respect for and would like to delve into at some point, but if you're looking for less submission and more striking they're not renound for this. Muay Thai is still gonna make you exercise, I did this for all of 6 months and then gave it the flick for that very reason. If you can find a mixed martial art or derivative of something like Tai Tong long you should be in the right direction- a.)Not fancy on the kicks (actually looks pretty ugly, but flows well, extremely fast, hurts like hell), great from inside, teaches effectiveness as a base principle (Tries to keep down on posturing and get more hits for less movement)B.)Doesn't focus on grappling or submission. As an asside here-> Good luck finding anywhere that doesn't focus on excercising, from a teacher's perspective, people tend to expect to come to class, exercise for half the time, line up in rows and punch at thin air and go home, heck if I taught like that I could drag out the core principles for at least 10-15 years without any real complaints.

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#172756 - 06/27/07 04:46 PM Re: A post for those who might become martial arti [Re: JimmySmith]
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I'm new to all of this also. I haven't even bought my gear yet. I'm still in the thinking and planning stage. I really want to learn Muay Thai, especially after watching Fight Girls and doing a lot of research online. The problem is I'm not sure I would like it and I understand the whole idea behind trying out a free lesson at a school, but I'm not really ready for that. Would it be feasible for me to start out using kickboxing videos just for getting in shape and getting a feel for it and then going to a school later once I know that's what I want to do?

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#172757 - 06/28/07 11:21 AM Re: A post for those who might become martial arti [Re: Helen2005]
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Well, if it's just for fitness, I guess you could use your videos. One thing I can tell you though, your future instructor is going to find it a real pain in the butt helping you unlearn the poor technique you'll have learned in those videos. Best to just join the real thing straight off and see how you like it.
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#172758 - 06/28/07 12:02 PM Re: A post for those who might become martial arti [Re: Helen2005]
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Helen,
There is nothing to fear. You have nothing to lose. Not really ready? Ready for what? Get off your butt and go have an adventure for gosh sakes. Plunk down a couple hundred dollars for a good gym and gear and go to town.

Which story would you rather be telling in a month...

Story#1

I'm a kickboxer. I got some videos and I practice in my apartment just like the girls on tv...

Or story#2

I saw Fight girls on TV. I don't know what it was about it that I found so compelling but there was something about it. It moved something in me. To be honest it scared me and fascinated me at the same time. I thought to myself if they can do it why can't I?

As I signed up at the muay thai gym my hands were shaking so bad I could barely sign the waiver. I thought to mysel this is crazy. The first week was awful everything hurt and ached. I kept going back. I don't even know why. After a few weeks began to look forward to going. My coach has been great. He knows what he is doing and he is watching out for me. I have even begun to imagine competeing one day. I may not do this forever but I have never felt more alive.


There is more to life than crunchin the numbers and the Doritos.

It's your story to write. The world has enough boring stories. Stop thinking and at start living.

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#172759 - 06/28/07 02:50 PM Re: A post for those who might become martial arti [Re: oldman]
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I completely agree with oldman and leo. I'm mainly doing the videos for fitness because in your original post you said it was better to be in shape. I totally agree with that. I have about 20 lbs. to lose. That's the main reason for the video. That and to get a feel for punching and kicking with a bag. As far as actual technique, I am not relying on the video to teach me that. If I decide this is something I want to do competively or just for fun, then I will find an instructor to teach me that stuff. Thanks for both of your replies and I took your advice to heart.

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#172760 - 07/04/07 07:52 PM Re: A post for those who might become martial artists. [Re: horizon]
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Some excellent tips here!
Worthy of all to take note :-)
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#172761 - 08/06/07 02:50 PM Re: A post for those who might become martial arti [Re: Helen2005]
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I completely agree with oldman and leo. I'm mainly doing the videos for fitness because in your original post you said it was better to be in shape. I totally agree with that. I have about 20 lbs. to lose. That's the main reason for the video. That and to get a feel for punching and kicking with a bag. As far as actual technique, I am not relying on the video to teach me that. If I decide this is something I want to do competively or just for fun, then I will find an instructor to teach me that stuff. Thanks for both of your replies and I took your advice to heart.




The trouble with this is that even though you may not be consciously trying to learn technique, you are still doing just that. You are creating "muscle memory" that will show up in the future unless you are lucky enough to be doing things right magically.

Some day when your future instructor says "you keep doing 'x' rather than what I'm showing you." You will be at the disadvantage of not knowing where the "bad habits are coming from. Compare this to someone who is switching styles and has developed techniques that don't really match the new style. At least this person has knowledge of why he is doing the things he does. That puts them in a better position to make corrections.
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#172762 - 08/12/07 01:12 PM Re: A post for those who might become martial arti [Re: jpoor]
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IMHO the knock on DVD's is vastly overstated. Yes, you may develop some bad habits in your technique since no instructor is there with you to correct them.

However, it is a mighty big assumption to think that a "qualified" (whatever that means) instructor would correct you at all. A good instructor would - whether he's "qualified" by anyone or not - but not everyone is a good instructor. You're only better off with an instructor if the instructor knows his stuff.

Secondly, you can learn more than you think on your own.

Read that last sentence again.

Thirdly, 95% of everything that matters can be learned without an instructor from a DVD alone. Even if you don't learn the proper weight shifting, hip torque or whatever to make the technique as effective as possible, you have a lot less to learn now than you did before you started the DVD. Now all you have to do is tweak the technique to make it effective since you've already mastered the basic motions.

I am very hesitant to knock DVD's or self teaching. Anyone who has ever advanced MA beyond its current state was to some extent self taught. Even the mere attempt shows a passionate desire and a drive to learn and that alone is priceless.

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#172763 - 08/12/07 02:17 PM Re: A post for those who might become martial arti [Re: sopwith21]
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Does a DVD provide a training partner with live resistance?
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#172764 - 08/12/07 11:38 PM Re: A post for those who might become martial arti [Re: sopwith21]
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sopwith21, you may be right. For many people it may be the case that they can learn correctly from a DVD. The reason why many people caution against learning in that fashion is that if a person learns bad form from a DVD, it may be difficult for them to discover that their form is bad or to recover from what they have learned because their instruction from a DVD is not interactive. A DVD can not see when a student has bad form and then correct them. So while there may be students who can learn correctly from a DVD, some people will have great difficulty learning that way.
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#172765 - 12/31/07 10:15 AM Re: A post for those who might become martial arti [Re: Leo_E_49]
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To those looking for an instructor/dojo. Beware wolves in sheeps clothing. By this I mean do some research.
There are many that claim to be "hall of fame" inductees that have done only one thing to accomplish such a feat. They wrote a check for , say, $300 and mailed it in to the "hall of fame". Some instructors claim to be inducted but when you go to the Hall of Fames web site - there isn't one. A Hall of Fame that doesn't have a web site? What does this tell you?
Don't think for a minute that because the instructor is a member of an international org. he is honest. Sometimes these are the biggest conmen.
I checked one instructors web site. He claimed to have been inducted into a "hall of fame" in 2000. His name appears nowhere on the hall of fame website. His name is in the book he was given when he sent his check to them . He also claims to have been inducted into another HOF a couple of years later. It was for his contributions to the arts and for being of "exceptional charactor".
Beware!!!!

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#172766 - 01/29/08 11:57 AM Re: A post for those who might become martial artists. [Re: horizon]
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Hello, I'm a spamming dork. Please ban me.


Edited by ZombieZero (01/29/08 12:32 PM)

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#172767 - 01/29/08 12:00 PM SPAM ALERT [Re: manman5800]
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#172768 - 04/22/08 03:02 AM Re: A post for those who might become martial artists. [Re: horizon]
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hey, i'm quite obsessed with MA. I research it, i talk about it alot to every1 excessively, i like watching it performed and I REALLY WANT TO DO IT. I know one martial artist who has been MMA champion or something like that 2 years in a row. he says that before i do any combat MA, i should do Tai-Chi as a good foundation to build upon and said I would learn much faster. I have researched, and have chosen Jeet Kune Do as a suitable 'style' for me. i am so obsessed with MA, i want to do at least 2 classes a week, and practice at home every single day for at least half an hour. do you believe that if i do Tai-Chi first, I will learn faster? and if so, how fast will i learn practicing all the time?
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#172769 - 04/22/08 03:16 AM Re: A post for those who might become martial artists. [Re: The_Master]
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r u serious?

I don't think Tai Chi is your best place to start if you want to get into MMA or "Combat arts". Seek an MMA school and they will develop your base for you.
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#172770 - 04/22/08 03:42 AM Re: A post for those who might become martial artists. [Re: JasonM]
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....i'm going for Jeet Kune Do, not MMA. i'm just doing what he said, he's a pro and besides, even if the Tai-Chi is worthless, it'll only waste 11 weeks. this guy takes on 10 other guys at once easy, so i'd do well to listen to him.
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#172771 - 04/22/08 03:57 AM Re: A post for those who might become martial arti [Re: The_Master]
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i should do Tai-Chi as a good foundation to build upon and said I would learn much faster. I have researched, and have chosen Jeet Kune Do as a suitable 'style' for me. i am so obsessed with MA, i want to do at least 2 classes a week, and practice at home every single day for at least half an hour. do you believe that if i do Tai-Chi first, I will learn faster? and if so, how fast will i learn practicing all the time?




I hear that Tai Chi takes a long time to become proficient with. Also 11 weeks is basically no time at all, you probably won't benefit from such a short time studing Tai Chi. Furthermore, if Tai Chi is not the art you want to be studying, you might get bored with it and become disenchanted with your studies. I think it's best for you to just start on JKD straight away and forget the Tai Chi.
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#172772 - 04/22/08 04:02 AM Re: A post for those who might become martial artists. [Re: The_Master]
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....i'm going for Jeet Kune Do, not MMA.




One can argue that MMA is the very essence of JKD.

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i'm just doing what he said, he's a pro




If he is a pro MMA fighter, run his name through the search function on www.sherdog.com and see what comes up.

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and besides, even if the Tai-Chi is worthless, it'll only waste 11 weeks.




You are young. Trust me, you have no weeks in life that you can afford to waste- I am not saying Tai Chi is a waste of time in and of itself, it just may not be the right tool for your individual goals.

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this guy takes on 10 other guys at once easy




No he doesn't.

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so i'd do well to listen to him.




Time will tell.
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#172773 - 04/22/08 05:14 AM Re: A post for those who might become martial artists. [Re: The_Master]
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....i'm going for Jeet Kune Do, not MMA. i'm just doing what he said, he's a pro and besides, even if the Tai-Chi is worthless, it'll only waste 11 weeks. this guy takes on 10 other guys at once easy, so i'd do well to listen to him.




are those 10 guys actually in elementary school?
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#172774 - 04/22/08 06:26 AM Re: A post for those who might become martial arti [Re: Leo_E_49]
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ahhh but martial arts is about perseverance, any chance i have of improving my overall performance is something i'm willing to do. i am fully obsessed. 11 weeks is enough to 'learn' it but not to become 'proficient' at it. i will do that in my own time.
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#172775 - 04/22/08 06:35 AM Re: A post for those who might become martial arti [Re: The_Master]
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so, you are going to try to learn it in 11 weeks and then master it on your own? I guess that is why you name is
The_Master...
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#172776 - 04/22/08 06:41 AM Re: A post for those who might become martial arti [Re: JasonM]
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......dedication *pat on back* dedication. my name is The_Master because things i start, i always strive to master it. i mostly use it in FPS games though, coz it's a pro name.
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#172777 - 04/22/08 07:08 AM Re: A post for those who might become martial arti [Re: The_Master]
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10 guys as in 10 full grown men or 10 really good martial artists.
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#172778 - 04/22/08 07:15 AM Re: A post for those who might become martial arti [Re: The_Master]
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#172779 - 04/22/08 07:19 AM Re: A post for those who might become martial arti [Re: The_Master]
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#172780 - 04/22/08 07:44 AM Re: A post for those who might become martial artists. [Re: JasonM]
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even if the Tai-Chi is worthless, it'll only waste 11 weeks.




Considering anything a waste is the wrong way to see it. However, what you may learn in 11 weeks of TC will probably need to be ditched when you start JKD or MMA as the training is quite different. Believe me, I had to retrain my whole body to do TC.
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#172781 - 04/22/08 12:05 PM Re: A post for those who might become martial arti [Re: The_Master]
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......dedication *pat on back* dedication. my name is The_Master because things i start, i always strive to master it. i mostly use it in FPS games though, coz it's a pro name.




OK, lets switch this around for an analogy. You are very good at online gaming right? now, lets say that I turn up green as grass in a quake community that you are part of. i get to play on your team in a protect the flag game. Prior to the game, I tell you and our teamates about a strategy an offline friend has guaranteed me will work to my favour in the game. You and the team, having played the game for years, tell me that this strategy is not effective, and I would be best to do something else.

I reply, 'well, my friend is the shizzle at quake, and I believe him'.

That would be my choice, and I would be free to make it, whilst you and the rest of the team would just say

In my scenario, the worst that can happen is I play embarrasingly badly, and get grief over a headset.

in your parallel scenario, the worst that can happen is actual bodily harm.

Your choice. Good luck, there is no more that can be said in reply to your question, other than if you were so sure of this guys advice, why on earth seek a second opinion in the first place?
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#172782 - 04/22/08 12:15 PM Re: A post for those who might become martial artists. [Re: The_Master]
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... this guy takes on 10 other guys at once easy...




The jokes write themselves on that one...
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#172783 - 04/22/08 06:31 PM Re: A post for those who might become martial artists. [Re: Zombie Zero]
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The_Master,

Quit screwing up all the sticky threads!!!
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#172784 - 04/23/08 06:11 AM Re: A post for those who might become martial arti [Re: Cord]
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....i don't just wanna listen to him, i want more opinions, and urs are all in the opposite direction. i'll have to talk to him more
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#172785 - 04/23/08 06:15 AM Re: A post for those who might become martial arti [Re: The_Master]
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i wanna get straight to JKD!
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#172786 - 04/23/08 06:16 AM Re: A post for those who might become martial arti [Re: The_Master]
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one question though. HOW LONG HAVE U GUYS BEEN DOING MA?
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#172787 - 04/23/08 06:45 AM Re: A post for those who might become martial arti [Re: The_Master]
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some more than others..there are quit a few that has decades of experience....Trust and believe you will get good advice here, as long as you listen, digest and weigh all advise/opinions...Don't limit yourself to one "guy" that has killed ppl subconsciously and defeated 10 guys, which sound far fetched to most of us...
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#172788 - 04/23/08 07:02 AM Re: A post for those who might become martial arti [Re: JasonM]
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he's been doing Chinese Martial Arts for over 20 years.
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#172789 - 04/23/08 07:06 AM Re: A post for those who might become martial arti [Re: The_Master]
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wich chinese arts? i thought he was a pro fighter? how old is he now?
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#172790 - 04/23/08 07:07 AM Re: A post for those who might become martial arti [Re: JasonM]
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he's not a pro fighter, he used to be, he's 40 something now, had lots of experience.
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#172791 - 04/23/08 07:07 AM Re: A post for those who might become martial arti [Re: The_Master]
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all i know for sure, is that one of them was Wing Chun.
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#172792 - 04/23/08 07:36 AM Re: A post for those who might become martial arti [Re: The_Master]
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listen, one thing that clouds the waters of martial arts, is that there is a section of the teaching community, who do not believe that what they have to teach is enough in itself to inspire interest in prospective students.
In an attempt to agrandise both their art and themselves, over time, they introduce a few 'shaggy dog stories', involving bolstering their reputation, accomplishments and prowess, along with the superiority of their 'system' or 'art'.

I am not saying that this chap is in that category, but for your own interest, you need to do the following.

1. Get his full name.
2. Get details of what year, and what town he dealt with 10 attackers.
3. Ask him what federation/organisation he fought in professionaly.

Armed with that info, go to your search engine(s) and have a look for independant evidence that confirms his claims.

A guy knocking out 10 attackers on his own would not only have made it to court, but would also have made regional, if not national news at the time.

Professional fighters have records- these records are there to be read. Its kind of their purpose, so they are not hard to find.

Check it out and make sure you are putting your trust in someone deserving of it.
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#172793 - 04/23/08 07:42 AM Re: A post for those who might become martial arti [Re: Cord]
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ty for advice, i'll have to look into it. i've never actually heard him claim that, only heard it from one of his friends, could be false info. coz the guy is getting abit slack with his MA, so his friend might want to make him look good so i'll want to learn from him and get him practicing more.
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#172794 - 04/23/08 07:43 AM Re: A post for those who might become martial arti [Re: The_Master]
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i haven't even asked the question: what do i want to get out of MA?
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#172795 - 04/23/08 07:45 AM Re: A post for those who might become martial arti [Re: The_Master]
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now i need to know how deadly martial arts can be in a realistic way. how many men may a MA practioner fight at once? depending on his skill level, i need to know how good one may get if he fully dedicates himself to it.
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#172796 - 04/23/08 07:47 AM Re: A post for those who might become martial arti [Re: The_Master]
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You mean you havent asked it of yourself, or of others?

I am pretty sure you addressed this in the beginners forum- wanting 'deadly fighting techniques' and whatnot. Its ok, if we are honest, practically all of us who looked into MA in our teens off the back of kung-fu movies wanted to be bad-a$$es. The more MA you do, the more you realise how dumb you were
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#172797 - 04/23/08 07:50 AM Re: A post for those who might become martial arti [Re: Cord]
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lol, yeah, i love those movies, but then i thought that MA was better than what was portrayed, i mean uc guys taking 2 mins to knock-out the other guy. i thought MA was just a wham! then K.O.
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#172798 - 04/23/08 08:13 AM Re: A post for those who might become martial arti [Re: The_Master]
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Ugh, you thought wrong. In most cases at least.
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#172799 - 04/23/08 08:27 AM Re: A post for those who might become martial arti [Re: jpoor]
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Watching the choreographed fights on movies tells you nothing about real fighting. Fight choreography itself changes drastically over time - compare the kung fu series of the 70s, looked fast then but tediously slow today with Bruce Lee and the choreography in the Bourne films.
Most real life fights ie without gloves and headguard take only seconds to be decided (though maybe several minutes extra for the victor to continue to batter his victims teeth in).

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#172800 - 04/23/08 08:28 AM Re: A post for those who might become martial arti [Re: The_Master]
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That is an impossible question to answer...
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#172801 - 04/23/08 08:33 AM Re: A post for those who might become martial arti [Re: The_Master]
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one question though. HOW LONG HAVE U GUYS BEEN DOING MA?




17 years formally, spread over the course of 19 years. Next year for me will be 20 years since I started training.

There are no guarantees in hand to hand combat, you might be able to take on 4-5 people one day (if you're an expert, and have trained with fully resisting partners) and get defeated by one person the next (no matter how expert you are). If you're looking for a guarantee that you won't be hurt, all you have to do is avoid violence in the first place.


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#172802 - 04/23/08 11:45 AM Re: A post for those who might become martial arti [Re: Leo_E_49]
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[quoteIf you're looking for a guarantee that you won't be hurt, all you have to do is avoid violence in the first place.




short of the low probability but high visibility mugging and higher chance of rape this is 99.9% fool-proof. Those exceptions historically carried a low probability of a trained assailant but that is changing.
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#172803 - 04/24/08 08:16 AM Re: A post for those who might become martial arti [Re: jeff_andle]
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higher chance of rape this is 99.9% fool-proof. Those exceptions historically carried a low probability of a trained assailant but that is changing.





Where do rapists get trained?
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#172804 - 04/28/08 09:40 AM Re: A post for those who might become martial arti [Re: trevek]
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your answer is the media... plain and simple (i hope) and probably something to do with parents/family....
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#172805 - 04/28/08 10:17 AM Re: A post for those who might become martial arti [Re: preangel]
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your answer is the media... plain and simple (i hope) and probably something to do with parents/family....




The media does not train rapists, make kids commit suicide or anything else that sick, twisted people weren't already going to do anyway.
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#172806 - 04/28/08 10:38 AM Re: A post for those who might become martial arti [Re: MattJ]
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Sorry Matt but have to disagree on that one.
The media's obsession with fame, beauty, success etc often means that many people - and children are particularly susceptible - feel inadequate in their lives. Its added stress that hormone driven, stressed, examed-out kids don't need and all of this can drive to depression and suicide.
It's also possibly the media obsession with sex and showing as much skin as possible that can drive inadequate men to force sex on vulnerable women.

I know the media doesn't train rapists but by insisting on giving us the goriest details of any such crime they do give others ideas of how to act out their sick fantasies.
I for one neither need nor want to know the details of these sick acts and believe the media have far too much power in our society. They have a lot to answer for.

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#172807 - 04/28/08 10:42 AM Re: A post for those who might become martial arti [Re: puffadder]
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Puffadder -

I think you are missing my point. People that would be susceptible to the "media" influencing them have serious mental problems. ANYTHING would set them off - the media, a song, a picture, someone looking at them the wrong way, a bad grade, a red light, someone driving too fast, someone walking too slow, etc......

You can't blame normal things for setting off crazy people.
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#172808 - 04/28/08 11:27 AM Re: A post for those who might become martial arti [Re: MattJ]
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On that point I agree but the media is largely responsible for the society we live in. From the way fat people are portrayed as lazy and stupid to how advertisers create insecurities in women by comparing them to airbrushed models to sell moisturising creams and the way newspapers dramatize every crime to make it appear as if there's a paedophile on every street corner so kids aren't allowed to play outside any more. Nobody seems to think they exist unless they're on TV these days. Politicians every action depends on how they think the reporters will cover it. Don't tell me the media don't have an influence on street crime. Muggers and rapists are well aware of the probablilty of them being caught, tactics of how to carry out their schemes and the penalties if they do get caught. They know all this from the media who love to report on these details.
I don't think we're going to agree on this one.

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#172809 - 04/28/08 01:21 PM Re: A post for those who might become martial arti [Re: puffadder]
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You both have good points, but could you please start another thread to discuss it? This thread is dedicated to beginners' inquiries about MA training.
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#172810 - 06/17/08 09:28 AM Re: A post for those who might become martial arti [Re: Leo_E_49]
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Are there any books are articles on this topic? Any recommendations?
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#172811 - 07/19/08 09:16 AM Re: A post for those who might become martial arti [Re: Aaron_Newsome]
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#172812 - 12/20/08 02:06 AM Re: A post for those who might become martial arti [Re: Leo_E_49]
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WOW!

The FEAR NO PUNCH website was excellent. The videos are about taking your defensive skills to the next level. I ordered the DVD series and this type of training is off the charts. 7 hours of the best illustrated instructional video I have ever learned from. I have to admit that this guy is really bashed on the internet sites, and now I know why, Coal Akida is incredible and makes other fighters and instructors look somewhat shameful, so I understand the hate for him on the internet.

All that aside every aspect of the Zero Fear Impact training program DVD is ground breaking!

I recently read about him training at Fort Carson and found FNP training technology articles in the Colorado Military Times observer. What I have come to understand is people hate what they fear and do not understand.

Although I have not done anything more than get the DVD and review the dvd my conclusions are as follows;

Coal Akida has created an entirely new set of combative skills and training methods and anyone that says different has simply not gotten the DVD period.

I may be only 22 years old but it dose not take a rocket scientist to figure out that Coal Akida has broken new ground with his FNP technology.

I cannot even begin to list the number of New concepts that Coal Akida has developed as each one of them could be a separate topic on their own.

I just want to inform those with the facts to make a better decision on creating a better training program and to talk with someone in regards to this new training program.

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#172813 - 12/20/08 09:17 AM SPAMMER [Re: arizonatraining]
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#172814 - 02/21/09 02:16 AM Re: A post for those who might become martial artists. [Re: Leo_E_49]
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Great article Leo, my main focus was a weapon art but i eventually find myself sucked into the majority of my art as well. keep posting!
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#172815 - 03/10/09 01:39 PM Re: A post for those who might become martial artists. [Re: horizon]
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the best place to learn martial arts is at it's original place.(korea) (japan) etc.
in america its a joke.

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#172816 - 03/10/09 01:45 PM Re: A post for those who might become martial artists. [Re: lights1]
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I just flew in from Japan. The training there was o.k. but boy are my arms tired.
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#172817 - 03/10/09 01:52 PM Re: A post for those who might become martial artists. [Re: lights1]
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the best place to learn martial arts is at it's original place.(korea) (japan) etc.
in america its a joke.




Lock and load, people.
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#172818 - 03/10/09 01:53 PM Re: A post for those who might become martial artists. [Re: lights1]
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if any one in the martial arts knows what he or she is doing you should be able to maim or kill an individual in 30 sec.or less. it does not matter what kind of martial arts you learn

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#172819 - 03/10/09 01:59 PM Re: A post for those who might become martial artists. [Re: lights1]
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if any one in the martial arts knows what he or she is doing you should be able to maim or kill an individual in 30 sec.or less. it does not matter what kind of martial arts you learn





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#172820 - 03/10/09 08:05 PM Re: A post for those who might become martial artists. [Re: lights1]
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hi,

I (me, opinion) feel that anyone who practiced and "gained the concept of (insert your style here) martial arts" might have to do BAD things but usually hasn't had to.


I can barely afford to live here in the U.S.A. let alone travel...a Great Instructor from (insert country of your style here) works really well. Peace
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#424232 - 01/03/10 03:36 AM Re: A post for those who might become martial artists. [Re: horizon]
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Congrats on your first kilo!
Applause to your newbie guide!
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#427011 - 05/07/10 06:16 AM Re: A post for those who might become martial artists. [Re: horizon]
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It is really fun to join on forums specially when your on the same side of niche ,This has been an opportunity for me to learn more on martial arts and it's senses of passion , Starting my day with a power lift and a little kick on the grounds and ending it with a deep on this forum, would definitely competes a martial artists day

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#427183 - 05/14/10 09:57 PM Re: A post for those who might become martial artists. [Re: horizon]
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I am starting to learn martial arts now , have my own private instructor , I am very passionate with this kind of sport and started loving it, I wish to hear more from those who share the same interests with me,
MMA techniques
fighting techniques

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#427184 - 05/14/10 10:32 PM Re: A post for those who might become martial arti [Re: krixia82]
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May I ask which Martial Art has caught your interest?

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#429610 - 09/03/10 12:45 AM Re: A post for those who might become martial artists. [Re: Leo_E_49]
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I agree! Martial Arts will not only help us to defend ourselves but also to gain self-discipline and will achieve physical health with proper use of it. I've tried Taekwondo when I was 12-15 years old. It really helped me a lot like developing self-motivation, also I gain self-confidence and more friends. This is a healthy way of exercise too.


Edited by HenryGuyton (09/03/10 12:46 AM)
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#429616 - 09/03/10 01:29 AM Re: A post for those who might become martial artists. [Re: HenryGuyton]
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The US has some of the worst, but also some of the best ma schools. Go to other countries? Why? Chuck Norris lives in America. Nough said. laugh
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#429953 - 09/14/10 03:36 PM Re: A post for those who might become martial artists. [Re: Stormdragon]
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#430216 - 09/28/10 04:40 PM Re: A post for those who might become martial artists. [Re: Reiki]
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I actually wrote a small post on things to look out for when trying to find the best kung fu school, would appreciate any comments on those who are interested...
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#430363 - 10/07/10 08:13 PM Re: A post for those who might become martial artists. [Re: krixia82]
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Originally Posted By: krixia82
It is really fun to join on forums specially when your on the same side of niche ,This has been an opportunity for me to learn more on martial arts and it's senses of passion , Starting my day with a power lift and a little kick on the grounds and ending it with a deep on this forum, would definitely competes a martial artists day


Same here.. I go to every Martial Arts forum just to know more about it and I just want to learn something new.. and also whats the opinions of other people about Martial Arts.. Forums is really great help for martial Artists..
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#431327 - 01/14/11 06:43 AM Re: A post for those who might become martial artists. [Re: horizon]
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Thanks for the info.....

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#431331 - 01/15/11 03:31 PM Re: A post for those who might become martial artists. [Re: MartialStudy]
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You definately missed some very important aspects which need articulating IMHV. Consider, re: SPACE, whatever its size, the training area M-U-S-T be clean; free of things which could harm you.

Nothing on the floor to trip you. Nothing attached or connected to the walls which can cause any potential harm. Organized, neat-clean is 100% mandatory, no matter what size the space might be.

If the shoes, or "outside stuff" is all over the place rather than in a specific area... not a great sign.

Weapons IMHO are typically a very bad sign (only in the generic) "initially". Playing with weapons, swords, knives, sharp and pointy things are a generic red flag. There are all kinds of weapons, and specific arts which teach them in different ways. But in the generic giving someone the weapon any weapon prematurely is a bad warning signal in my humble perspective. You need to know about the people you are arming , training before you simply give them such tools the very first day.

Merely my humble opinion, I could surely be mistaken,
Jeff


Edited by Ronin1966 (01/15/11 03:32 PM)
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#431650 - 02/27/11 07:48 PM Re: A post for those who might become martial artists. [Re: Ronin1966]
choonbee Offline
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My area has it's fair share of Mc-dojos, but I lucked out by picking a school with experienced instructors who are traditional, and at the same time willing to incorporate new methods into our training.
No contracts, inexpensive, and achieving black belt takes about 6 years provided you pass all of your tests.
I watched a few classes before I joined, and never was pressured into signing up. After I did join, I found that the instructors and higher ranking students are very helpful and take the time to show me the right way to do things.
My instructor had a student who fell on hard times due to the economic downturn, but he let him continue to train with us until he got back on his feet. He did little chores around the dojo to cover his fees.
I have to say that I'm pretty happy with my dojo so far. It's tough training, and it takes a lot out of me (I'm 45) but I'm learning a lot, I've dropped 21 pounds in the 8 weeks that I've been training, and when class is over I have a satisfied feeling of accomplishment.
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#431652 - 03/01/11 08:09 AM Re: A post for those who might become martial artists. [Re: choonbee]
iaibear Offline
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Loc: upstate New York
It's tough choosing a Martial Art without advice.
Even in the same art (in my case Aikido), without being informed of various styles of instruction (in my case drilling vs, traditional), how can you make a choice? Especially if you do not even know you have a choice.
Saying "sample local schools" is true. But if you don't know what to look for beyond "fit", or are advised to "check previous discussions on the forum" a newby is left puzzled. I know I was.
And do not ask me where to look for previous discussions. I never found them.

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#431653 - 03/01/11 05:00 PM Re: A post for those who might become martial artists. [Re: iaibear]
choonbee Offline
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Registered: 02/26/11
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Yes...it's pretty much a shot in the dark if you go at it on your own.
You may narrow it down to what you would like to learn, but once you start, you may find that it isn't what you thought it would be.
On the other hand, some styles may not appeal to you on the surface, but you may find that you like it once you get started.
I guess keeping an open mind is the key.
For me, getting started was the biggest step. With no previous martial arts experience to speak of, I felt that doing something was better than doing nothing at all, and I chose the school that I felt the most comfortable with.
I may decide to switch up in the future and try a different style, and not being bound by a contract gives me the financial freedom to make that choice if I feel the need, but as for now, as a beginner, I look foward to classes, and find myself remembering many of the techniques that we practice.
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#431892 - 04/04/11 12:00 AM Re: A post for those who might become martial artists. [Re: choonbee]
47MartialMan Offline
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I would like to add:

Don't study a martial art under peer influences such as;

*Who is saying what they do is the best.

*Quasi ambiance, such as claims and entertaining demonstrations

*Popularity

*Media, such as film and television

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#432378 - 05/14/11 07:31 AM Re: A post for those who might become martial artists. [Re: horizon]
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Very cool info. Looking forward to your next post
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#432380 - 05/14/11 10:34 PM Re: A post for those who might become martial artists. [Re: Jilson Thomas]
47MartialMan Offline
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Originally Posted By: Jilson Thomas
Very cool info. Looking forward to your next post


I was fortunate back in the late 60's to 70's to have the majority of my instructors who did not charge me for lessons.

In 74-79, one of my Chinese instructors had me do chores around his house for lessons.

Nah, it wasn't a Daniel-Miyagi wax on wax off, etc.

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#433356 - 07/19/11 05:37 AM Re: A post for those who might become martial artists. [Re: 47MartialMan]
Alicja Offline
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I have read this twice and thought twice, thanks for the advice, I must admit i joined training way back then due to these influences but gladly today I'm the only one left still on training. the rest of the guys lost interest. still im not sure if I should say "gladly"

Originally Posted By: 47MartialMan
I would like to add:

Don't study a martial art under peer influences such as;

*Who is saying what they do is the best.

*Quasi ambiance, such as claims and entertaining demonstrations

*Popularity

*Media, such as film and television


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#435777 - 05/01/13 10:44 PM Re: A post for those who might become martial artists. [Re: Leo_E_49]
mmichelozzi Offline
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Registered: 04/30/13
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Loc: MI
I like your post, Leo, because it is helpful and has good advice. I am sixty-seven years old in fairly good shape and a few months ago my twelve year old grand daughter asked me if I'd take a tkd class with her - she was starting her second session. So I did.

I'm fairly active - I either cycle or hike every day - and do some exercises - so I was in fairly good shape for a guy my age starting out.

I've never done any martial arts in the past other than for the past few years I've studied bagua aikido from books and online videos, etc.

I'm discovering the challenges of waking up the hips and joints, stretching out, and learning the precision of the forms. I spend an hour or so every day stretching and practicing the forms and I like it.

I'm new to this forum and this is the first time I've posted anything here. I'm the kind of person who starts something and when I like it it becomes a part of my life even part time for the rest of my life.

That's it.

Mike

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#435783 - 05/07/13 08:47 AM Re: A post for those who might become martial artists. [Re: mmichelozzi]
iaibear Offline
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Registered: 08/24/05
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Loc: upstate New York
Originally Posted By: mmichelozzi
I like your post, Leo, because it is helpful and has good advice. I am sixty-seven years old in fairly good shape and a few months ago my twelve year old grand daughter asked me if I'd take a tkd class with her - she was starting her second session. So I did.


Good for you, Mike. I was only 63 when I started MA. I'm still at it, too.

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#435785 - 05/15/13 02:51 AM Re: A post for those who might become martial artists. [Re: mmichelozzi]
Leo_E_49 Offline
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Loc: California
Originally Posted By: mmichelozzi
I like your post, Leo, because it is helpful and has good advice. I am sixty-seven years old in fairly good shape and a few months ago my twelve year old grand daughter asked me if I'd take a tkd class with her - she was starting her second session. So I did.


Thanks Mike, I'm glad that this post was helpful for you. Best of luck with your training. smile
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