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#171355 - 07/25/05 04:23 PM Da Cheng Chuan / XingYiQuan Postures
inthenameofgott Offline
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I have recently been reading a lot about XingYiQuan and Standing Qi-gong.

I have a query concerning standing postures. Both books I have read have stressed tucking the hips forward and using the muscles in the lower back to straighten the spine when practicing. In addition raising the head up "as if pulled by a string"...

Now both books stress the importance of relaxing into this posture and allowing the shoulders and waist to relax. My issue is that i find it difficult to relax whilst maintaining this posture.

Has anyone else experience the same problem when starting standing Qi-gong?

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#171356 - 07/25/05 04:49 PM Re: Da Cheng Chuan / XingYiQuan Postures [Re: inthenameofgott]
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I think that it just takes practice to get used to this posture. When i first began xingyi, it felt pretty wierd. Now it feels fine though, i havent been doing it very long at all. The more you do it, the more natural it will become.

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#171357 - 07/27/05 02:50 PM Re: Da Cheng Chuan / XingYiQuan Postures [Re: inthenameofgott]
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Yes, lots of problems when starting out, it would really help you very much to have the help of a qualified instructor as opposed to trying to learn (even a seemingly simple thing as correct posture) from books, good as they may be!

Good luck!

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#171358 - 07/28/05 03:16 PM Re: Da Cheng Chuan / XingYiQuan Postures [Re: nenipp]
inthenameofgott Offline
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Thank you both for your replies,

I have to say over the past week it has started to feel more natural as I suppose it is taken less muscle strain to keep my back straight as the muscles I havent used much in the past, are now becoming used to being utilised.

As soon as I can find a standing qi-gong or Xingyiquan teacher near me I will visit one as I am aware that getting used to the wrong posture can take a long time to fix.

I would also like to stress that all books I have read have recommended face to face instruction as its the only way you can be sure its correct. However, I am living in Leeds in the UK and schools near me seem to focus mainly on the Japanese arts, ie Shotokan Karate, Jujitsu & Aikido. As much as I enjoyed the Aikido & Jujitsu classes I attended (for about 1 year each) neither had any internal training.

(I expect it was just these classes rather than the arts as a whole, as I am aware of Aikido's centrism principles and have read a little about Aikido breathing techniques in the past.)

It may be best to visit a 1 off open day or visit another region for at least 1 class so I can ask a qualified instructor about my posture(s).

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#171359 - 07/28/05 03:52 PM Re: Da Cheng Chuan / XingYiQuan Postures [Re: inthenameofgott]
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I dont think it was the classes in aikido and jujitsu you took, those martial arts dont do that sort of training. In aikido they do it in a sense, but not in the same way as xingyi or tai chi. If you are looking for a martial art that has some qigong training in it, the best choice would probably be one of the internal martial arts. (Baguazhang, XingYi Quan, Tai Chi, or Liu He Ba Fa. I have never heard of a teacher that teaches only quigong, but it is usually incorporated somehow into those martial arts.

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#171360 - 07/30/05 04:21 PM Re: Da Cheng Chuan / XingYiQuan Postures [Re: Chuan]
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"I have never heard of a teacher that teaches only quigong, but it is usually incorporated somehow into those martial arts"

You haven't heard much then, qigong can be part of MA, but it has other purposes also (medical/therapeutic qigong for instance)

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