FightingArts Estore
Pressure Points
From a medical professional, straight facts on where and how to hit that can save your life.
Stretching
Limber or not, anyone can add height and speed to their kicks with this method.
Calligraphy
For yourself or as a gift, calligraphy is special, unique and lasting.
Karate Uniforms
Look your best. Max snap. low cost & superior crafted: “Peak Performance Gold” 16 oz uniforms.

MOTOBU
Classic book translation. Hard to find. Not in stores.
Who's Online
0 registered (), 20 Guests and 3 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Newest Members
BUJU, Pilsungkarate, ALF, old1, Leonar
22928 Registered Users
Top Posters (30 Days)
Ronin1966 3
futsaowingchun 2
ergees 2
GojuRyuboy13 2
AndyLA 1
October
Su M Tu W Th F Sa
1 2 3 4
5 6 7 8 9 10 11
12 13 14 15 16 17 18
19 20 21 22 23 24 25
26 27 28 29 30 31
New Topics
I spy kata bunkai..
by GojuRyuboy13
Yesterday at 08:28 AM
Judo 2014 World Championships Juniors: The Gallery
by ergees
10/25/14 04:53 PM
The Classic Pak Sao drill
by futsaowingchun
10/20/14 10:32 AM
wing chun kicks and knees
by futsaowingchun
10/09/14 12:55 AM
2014 European Championships Juniors: the Gallery
by ergees
10/05/14 10:56 AM
Living a full life violence free...
by GojuRyuboy13
09/25/14 08:50 AM
An open letter to bunkai researchers...
by Bartfast
08/05/14 04:18 PM
The Karate punch
by Matakiant
10/30/13 07:41 AM
Leo's Judo Journal
by Leo_E_49
01/24/12 02:58 AM
** Introduce Yourself! **
by
05/13/07 08:02 AM
Recent Posts
The Karate punch
by Matakiant
Yesterday at 10:01 PM
I spy kata bunkai..
by GojuRyuboy13
Yesterday at 08:28 AM
Judo 2014 World Championships Juniors: The Gallery
by ergees
10/25/14 04:53 PM
Living a full life violence free...
by GojuRyuboy13
10/22/14 07:20 AM
The Classic Pak Sao drill
by futsaowingchun
10/20/14 10:32 AM
Leo's Judo Journal
by swordy
10/11/14 09:21 AM
wing chun kicks and knees
by futsaowingchun
10/09/14 12:55 AM
An open letter to bunkai researchers...
by Ronin1966
10/08/14 09:22 PM
2014 European Championships Juniors: the Gallery
by ergees
10/05/14 10:56 AM
** Introduce Yourself! **
by AndyLA
10/04/14 10:20 AM
Forum Stats
22928 Members
36 Forums
35584 Topics
432513 Posts

Max Online: 424 @ 09/24/13 10:38 PM
Page 2 of 2 < 1 2
Topic Options
#169669 - 06/27/07 01:06 AM Re: Double Broadswords [Re: Chen Zen]
h2z Offline
Stranger

Registered: 06/27/07
Posts: 3
I think the only prupose for the cloth is the same as the tassel on the jian...distraction. if you learn how to wield it right you will learn to avoid the cloth.

Top
#169670 - 07/02/07 05:53 AM Re: Double Broadswords [Re: h2z]
northstar Offline
Member

Registered: 04/30/07
Posts: 40
Reasons why there is cloth on the handle for dao.

1. To wipe blood from the hand during battle and stop your hand from slipping.

2. Wrapping the cloth in your hand before you handle your dao stops the weapon from flying out of your hand. Just imagine you are in battle, you are on horseback, etc. you are fighting maybe for hours -- blood and sweat are slippery, our grip becomes weak and that there is constant impact on your weapon/handling ... or you just get clumsy when exhausted.

3. With the dao 'flag' in our hand, my teacher told me there was a method of thrusting with the dao and letting the handle go (but still having a grip on the cloth), thus allowing for a few extra inches to an attack -- and grabbing the handle afterward. Don't have the balls to try this one yet

Remember that most sword fights would only last a matter of a few moves and that the dao is not really 'swung' around in combat so the flag wouldn't really come into play as a method of distraction. However, flags and tassels are used as part of showmanship in contemporary wushu today.

Top
#169671 - 07/02/07 08:19 PM Re: Double Broadswords [Re: northstar]
Benjamin1986 Offline
Enthusiast

Registered: 10/17/04
Posts: 611
Loc: Republic of Texas
Quote:

With the dao 'flag' in our hand, my teacher told me there was a method of thrusting with the dao and letting the handle go (but still having a grip on the cloth), thus allowing for a few extra inches to an attack -- and grabbing the handle afterward. Don't have the balls to try this one yet


Wow, that's a massively illegal move in fencing (specifically in the rules, automatic red card. Black card if they think you did it with intent to injure). I've seen people attempt to grab the pommel while thrusting forward (also illegal), but going all the way to sword-chuck mode? That's something I haven't heard of. Quite frankly, it sounds like a myth. Have you seen your instructor doing it? Can you get a video? (Not being suspicious anymore, I just want to see someone crazy enough to actually do it.).

Also, wouldn't a hankerchief be more appropriate for wiping blood than a tassel permanently attached to the grip? You would start blood flying everywhere when you began swinging again.

Wrapping around the hand... Now that, I can see. However, if that was the case, wouldn't leather be more appropriate?

Just some things which came to mind while reading.
_________________________
Fencing Club at UH

Top
#169672 - 08/05/07 06:10 PM Re: Double Broadswords [Re: kenkaku]
terry_asvr Offline
Stranger

Registered: 08/05/07
Posts: 4
Loc: mcdonough,ga
the cloth is not just for looks,when in battle for your life the cloth was used to break the eye control of your enemy,to hide the movement of your blade to try to hit your enemy thru the cloth dance,meaning as the the sword is swing at the enemy you then spin the handle making the cloth open in front of thier eyes then use the other sword to swing thru the cloth hoping they do not see it coming,but in show you use the cloth to help your swords to look like they are dancing with you when performing your martial arts forms

Top
#169673 - 08/05/07 06:17 PM Re: Double Broadswords [Re: kenkaku]
terry_asvr Offline
Stranger

Registered: 08/05/07
Posts: 4
Loc: mcdonough,ga
the cloth is not just for looks,when in battle for your life the cloth was used to break the eye control of your enemy,to hide the movement of your blade to try to hit your enemy thru the cloth dance,meaning as the the sword is swing at the enemy you then spin the handle making the cloth open in front of thier eyes then use the other sword to swing thru the cloth hoping they do not see it coming,but in show you use the cloth to help your swords to look like they are dancing with you when performing your martial arts forms

Top
Page 2 of 2 < 1 2


Moderator:  Charles Mahan, Cord, MattJ, Reiki 




Action Ads
1.5 Million Plus Page Views
Monthly
Only $89
Details

Self Defense
Offering stun guns, pepper spray, tasers and other self defense products not available in stores.

Pepper Spray
Online distributor of self defense supplies like videos, stun guns, Tasers and more.

Spy Cameras
Surveillance, Hidden Cameras, Nanny Cams, Digital Recorders, Spy Equipment, Pocket DVR's and more

Stun Gun
Wholesale Directlhy to the Public! Stun gun and Taser Guns and personal protection products. Keep your loved ones at home safe!

 

Unbreakable Unbrella

krav maga