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#169247 - 07/20/05 09:39 PM Re: How many real fights? [Re: Intrepidinv1]
McSensei Offline

Registered: 06/15/05
Posts: 1069
Loc: Kent, England
Lost count.
Most while drunk.
Most lost.
There's a lesson there.

Haven't swung a fist in anger this century.
Haven't needed to.

#169248 - 07/21/05 03:04 AM Re: How many real fights? [Re: McSensei]
Cord Offline

Registered: 01/13/05
Posts: 11399
Loc: Cambridge UK.
Too many.
Don't let the door hit ya' where the good lord split ya'

#169249 - 07/21/05 03:55 AM Re: How many real fights? [Re: Intrepidinv1]
nekogami13 V2.0 Offline
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Registered: 04/10/04
Posts: 2643
Loc: Texas, USA
Quite a few, all work related.
"Won" all of them, have some scars from a couple-including a nickel sized bite scar on my forearm.
I'm sorry, I was just imaging what you would look like with duct tape over your mouth

#169250 - 07/21/05 03:59 AM Re: How many real fights? [Re: Intrepidinv1]
Chanters Offline

Registered: 06/16/04
Posts: 559
Loc: Manchester, UK

We did this little pushing drill and he fell over.

I'm sorry but what would you have preferred him to do?Throw you? Get you in a wrist lock? If it was a "pushing drill" it sounds like it was a practice of taking balance and it seems like he fell to indicate that you got his balance and was being a bit compliant. That is not to say he'd drop to the ground like a sack of spuds if he was nudged by an aggressor in a real situation.

To assume that someone who has had no fighting experience will not fair well in a real life encounter is IMO not quite valid. There are instances where people with no MA training at all have fended off would-be attackers and also well trained MA who have been attacked by thugs, muggers, drunks and lost. I believe we(MA's) do have an 'edge' to those who don't practice MA but I don't believe we're immune or invincible to succumbe to an non trained attacker. That would be naive.


I recall taking an Aikido class from a guy that told me that he had never been in a real fight in his life.

Maybe the aikidoka has worked on developing his zanshin or samadhi? Being able to avoid confrontation and know when there's potential danger and act accordingly seems wiser than knowing that you could get some bjj guy to tap out from an arm lock in the dojo or beat a guy in the boxing ring.

I do agree with black belt opinion though.

#169251 - 07/21/05 04:37 AM Re: How many real fights? [Re: Chanters]
funstick5000 Offline

Registered: 07/16/05
Posts: 759
Loc: West Yorkshire, England
1 or 2 fights. nothing serious but the worse was a kid (about a foot shorter than me) seemed pretty intent on punching me in the face as many times possible. never tasted a street-fight and frankly i don't want to.
Go seek the advise of a qualified instructor.

#169252 - 07/21/05 06:57 AM Re: How many real fights? [Re: funstick5000]
Intrepidinv1 Offline

Registered: 04/20/05
Posts: 308
Loc: NC, USA
I have a lot of stories I could tell but I don't want to put everyone to sleep. Most of my stuff is job related but there has been a few incidents in my younger life that was not.

I did deter one guy just from the stance that I took. He was being aggressive but changed his mind when I shifted my weight into a more assertive stance. He looked me over and said okay, let's just forget this ever happened. He had initiated the whole problem anyway.

#169253 - 07/21/05 10:12 AM Re: How many real fights? [Re: nekogami13 V2.0]
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Registered: 01/18/05
Posts: 3260
Loc: Midwest City, Ok, USA
Boy That sounded like a scrap, nickle size plugs being bite out of your arm, man he didn't want to go to jail and must have been drunks as hell. Or didn't know about the trip to the hospital or the trip up the elevator to the jail cell.
Almost sounds worst then a knife attack.

I'm glad they didn't just eat you up, its some crazy people out there. I've been bite mostly on the thigh, back of hand and fingers. The thigh bite left the nastiest bruise the others I was able to shake before they really clamped down.

#169254 - 07/21/05 11:17 AM Re: How many real fights? [Re: Neko456]
globetrotter Offline
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Registered: 01/10/05
Posts: 637
Loc: ny usa
I had the pleasure of being in my local emergency room last saturday night (nothing earth shattering, just my son with a little blood in his urine and we didn't know why). there had to be a half dozen bar fights represented in the ER, with more members of my local law enforcement agency than I really knew there were, guarding them. a lot of kids with abrasions and loose teeth.

really pathetic.

I haven't really been in anything that could be called a fight that I can remember, since the military when I had a few scrapes. I have used violence several times, while on duty, in the military and after (while being involved in security) and I have been involved in a number of attmepted muggings and attempts from others to use violence towards me. I can't think of any time, as an adult, when I faced another adult man and squared off and started fighting.

#169255 - 07/21/05 03:15 PM Re: How many real fights? [Re: Neko456]
nekogami13 V2.0 Offline
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Registered: 04/10/04
Posts: 2643
Loc: Texas, USA
We had a disagreement-I was convinced he was going to go to jail,he was sure he was not. As we debated this, he was overcome with zeal and clamped down on my forearm(only part he could reach)and pulled his head back while still clamped on to me. So I responded to his enthusiasm as any reasonable peace loving individual would-I hit him as hard and as fast as I could in the face.

Eventualy he saw things my way.
I'm sorry, I was just imaging what you would look like with duct tape over your mouth

#169256 - 07/21/05 08:52 PM Re: How many real fights? [Re: globetrotter]
Intrepidinv1 Offline

Registered: 04/20/05
Posts: 308
Loc: NC, USA
I had the blood in the urine thing when I was about 15. I was riding a bicycle, boxing and training alot then. Went to the doctor, Nothing came of it, now more problems. Hope your son turns out the same way on this that I did.

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