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#169337 - 10/29/06 04:26 PM Re: How many real fights? [Re: Cord]
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Sic em, Cord!
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#169338 - 10/29/06 04:34 PM Re: How many real fights? [Re: Chen Zen]
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Perhaps, I should consider sending my mensa card back. But since the fight was over twenty years ago, I think I will keep it. I don't know anything about the laws in England. I usually made my living training guard dogs or driving tractor trailer trucks, but I have also worked apartment security and bounced when I was between jobs. It can be dangerous work. Richard Grannon I believe is a doorman in England. If you can fight anywhere near his level then you have my respect as well. I don't believe in keyboard wars, they are kind of childish. You are entitled to your opinion.

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#169339 - 10/29/06 04:36 PM Re: How many real fights? [Re: Mishael]
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Chen Zen, I feel bad; I don't have any cheer leaders.

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#169340 - 10/29/06 07:44 PM Re: How many real fights? [Re: Mishael]
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Perhaps you're in the wrong sport, or just not a very good player.
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#169341 - 10/29/06 09:02 PM Re: How many real fights? [Re: Chen Zen]
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Chen Zen, I am not in a sport. I was referring to you're telling Cord to sic. That would make you either his master or his cheerleader. Have you picked up any dogs by the ears lately. The Bible says that a person who involves himself in another's dispute is like a man that picks up a dog by the ears. Funny how many people do that and are surprised when they are bit. Chen Zen, how many real fights have you had? Or do you just stand around cheering on others?

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#169342 - 10/29/06 09:09 PM Re: How many real fights? [Re: Mishael]
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I know what you were referring. My answer was an anology that roughly meant, tell the truth and people wont call you a liar. You know, change sports, rather than being a competitive liar.

As for Me and Cord's relationship, we're friends and peers. We work together to sniff out bs, like you so blatantly spewed on this thread. I simply commended him for calling you on it. As far as getting bit goes, if thats the extent of your bite then perhaps you should invest in dentures cause i think you just gummed me. As for my answer to the question of fights, my answers up there. Read if you feel like researching someone. Dont be mad because someone sniffed out some BS. Be mad because its you who stinks.
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#169343 - 10/29/06 09:22 PM Re: How many real fights? [Re: Mishael]
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Perhaps it's time this thread should be locked???



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#169344 - 10/29/06 09:30 PM Re: How many real fights? [Re: JKogas]
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I was surprised it lasted this long with all the VTG's around here.
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#169345 - 10/30/06 03:02 AM Re: How many real fights? [Re: Mishael]
Happy Birthday Cord Offline
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I don't know anything about the laws in England. I usually made my living training guard dogs or driving tractor trailer trucks




And this explains the guy with the gun not being prosecuted how exactly?

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I have also worked apartment security and bounced when I was between jobs. It can be dangerous work.




can't argue with that.

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Richard Grannon I believe is a doorman in England.




We have thousands of doormen in Britain, I was one, Gavin is one, McSensei is about to become one (other forum members/moderator). As for 'celebrity' doormen, out highest profile guy would be Geoff Thompson, who has written several best selling books, some autobiographical, others on the nature of violence and self defence. There is also Steve Jones who does a monthly article in MA illustrated called 'Samurai on the door', outside of that there are none with nationaly recogniseable names that I can think of.
Isn't Richard Grannon the cop who fought Kimo, nearly got fired for it, then got a UFC match and got his but kicked- and nearly got fired for it? If so, he is American, and highlights how much trouble a cop would get in for moonlighting as a bouncer and pulling a gun on someone in your movie action scene- er, sorry, 'real life incident'.

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If you can fight anywhere near his level then you have my respect as well.




the best doormen seldom have to 'fight', they prevent trouble, not react to it, and when it happens we don't throwdown with punters in harms way, we remove the problem as quickly and quietly as possible. Thats how you keep a reputable bar, and a clean criminal record. Its not 'Roadhouse' (besides, I never suited the 'mullet' hair style).
I 'respect' the door crew in places that have a largely trouble free reputation- they are doing the job right. If i here about a crew always fighting and having the police in 4 times per weekend, that is a sure sign that their are issues with their concept of what the job is about.

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I don't believe in keyboard wars, they are kind of childish. You are entitled to your opinion.




you are right, props for keeping it civil, i have a somewhat blunt manner, so if I offended, its not my real intent. There are lots of kids who come on here with misconceptions of what violence actually is. its important that anything that may influence the life choices of the impressionable be honest, and your story just doesn't ring true to me, sorry.

The fish we catch on holiday have a tendency to gain weight with us over time. maybe this fish got larger over the last twenty years
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#169346 - 10/30/06 05:17 AM Re: How many real fights? [Re: Cord]
Mishael Offline
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Loc: PA USA
Cord, You didn't offend me. I just thought that by telling you alittle about myself, you would see I don't have to make up stories about twenty year old fights to pet my ego. I have plenty of glory stories, but you wouldn't believe most of them either.

I agree that there is not glamourous about violence. I always used violence to over come violence, but I was lucky no one was killed and the worst punishment I received was fines for mutual combat (disturbing the peace).

As you get to know me, you will find that I treat people with respect.

Here it was a common practice for police to work security jobs (bouncers). I don't know if it still is since I stopped drinking seventeen years ago.

My purpose in coming to this forum was to participate in the threads. This one ask how many real fights; so, I answered. I answered truthfully.

I see your point about impressionable posters being negatively impacted by glory stories whether true or not and I do apologize for contributing to that problem.

I didn't wish to highjack this thread; so, I won't.

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