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#168675 - 07/19/05 07:34 AM Higashionna Seisan...
Kintama Offline
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I have a specific question.
Higashionna/Goju Seisan... open. rt sanchin-dachi,double mid 'block',left chudan zuki, step rt chudan zuki, step lt chudan zuki....
here's my Q:
(ignoring what the hands do simultaneously) the forward right foot lifts up so that the heel is about halfway between the floor and your butt. not like a chamber when kicking, the thigh angle (when viewed from the side) is perpendicular (90deg - not parallel) to the floor.
and then the shuffle forward double open hand thrust attack.

Q: what is the application of the foot lifting like this? I'm thinking for momentum and a possible foot stomp/landing on the opponents forward foot just prior to attack.
I use it as an adjustment of mai and wind-up while doing the open hand really adds to the momentum of the counter strike.
I suppose it could be an offbalancing sweep too. although it feels a little awkward to apply.

any thoughts are appreciated.

#168676 - 07/20/05 04:13 AM Re: Higashionna Seisan... [Re: Kintama]
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First, the sliding movement wich ends in a heel-toe step (yori-ashi) ends in accentuating hip as end of the foot movement (back leg). Front leg could be stomp or press on opponents foot to prevent him from escaping for a moment (to lock his position) in preparation of a push or punch (actually good tournament technique).

The lifting and sliding can be interpreted as pushing against the leg or even lifting opponents leg from behind his leg, then advancing with body push, to destabelize or throw opponent. You have to remain close to opponent to do it.(body contact).

#168677 - 07/20/05 07:08 AM Re: Higashionna Seisan... [Re: CVV]
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Thank-You CVV...sounds reasonable. I just need to practice it more to have it feel more comfortable.

sidenote: can you foot stomp or stand on someones foot in tournament rules? I never knew that. interesting. I only remember sweeps allowed as long as you score before they hit the foor.

#168678 - 07/20/05 12:52 PM Re: Higashionna Seisan... [Re: Kintama]
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I truly don't know the right answer for this,but it could be an avoidance of a foot stomp as well. Then returning the stomp while advancing.
What CVV said sounds good.
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#168679 - 07/20/05 01:09 PM Re: Higashionna Seisan... [Re: SANCHIN31]
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I agree, avoidence of shin/foot stomp, return the favour and hold in position, double strike to sides or if opponent drops head, neck is what I used to practise.

i train Matsumura Seisan now and this piece isnt in the kata, which is a shame.
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#168680 - 07/20/05 02:11 PM Re: Higashionna Seisan... [Re: SANCHIN31]
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it could be an avoidance of a foot stomp as well.

ah-ha! I never even thought of this. The opponent however would have to step back right after the failed attempt, since you'd be way too close for the shuffle forward strike.
The shuffle forward could be to gain the distance on his retreat! I'll try it...thanks guys.

#168681 - 07/21/05 10:51 AM Re: Higashionna Seisan... [Re: Kintama]
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I've heard it explained that its a sticky leg technique, the hands are used to enter and trap or distablize the body by striking or grabbing at that same time the legs are avoiding a stomp/sweep & returning the favor or attacking the ankle with a stomp or reap as its done in Judo/reaps, Silat and Wing chun kung fu.

A simple powerful move yet a complex application, I like to use it in sparring after a hand exchange I'll sweep front leg and push him in the chest to the side I want to kick him on, maybe hold the his front hand. It takes a skillful sparring partner to get out of that because he's off balance twice. Now I am doing it in reverse but its the same concept brought down to continous sparring/playing not break the ankle or ribs.


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