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#164757 - 07/06/05 07:36 PM bjj vs. kung fu
trunkz Offline
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Registered: 07/06/05
Posts: 4
hi,
i know some bjj moves myself and im wondering if i ever face an opponent who knows kung fu (which i hope not), who's more likely to come out of the battle and not ending up in a hospital.

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#164758 - 07/06/05 07:49 PM Re: bjj vs. kung fu [Re: trunkz]
BigRod Offline
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Registered: 02/10/05
Posts: 736
Loc: Atlanta, GA
LOL. Sounds like somebodys been challenged to a fight.

That question is impossible for any of us to answer. You know "some bjj moves", and you want us to predict your odds of beating some guy who might know kung fu.

Good luck with that.

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#164759 - 07/06/05 08:47 PM Re: bjj vs. kung fu [Re: BigRod]
butterfly Offline
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Registered: 08/25/04
Posts: 3012
Loc: Torrance, CA
Ditto BR said.

-B

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#164760 - 07/06/05 10:40 PM Re: bjj vs. kung fu [Re: trunkz]
Fletch1 Offline
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Registered: 06/21/04
Posts: 2218
Loc: Florida
One thing that we are not going to start on this forum is a BJJ vs *** discussion. Once we go there, it gets ugly.

Suffice it to say however, that the person who is best prepared, is able to seize the initiative, is able to follow through and has the best luck, will probably have the best chance at success. Read that however you want.
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#164761 - 07/06/05 10:47 PM Re: bjj vs. kung fu [Re: Fletch1]
eyrie Offline
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Registered: 12/28/04
Posts: 3106
Loc: QLD, Australia
Nor should it be on any forum.

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#164762 - 07/06/05 10:50 PM Re: bjj vs. kung fu [Re: trunkz]
oldman Offline
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Registered: 07/28/04
Posts: 5884
You guys are such Diplomats.

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#164763 - 07/06/05 11:42 PM Re: bjj vs. kung fu [Re: trunkz]
Dingo Offline
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Registered: 06/19/05
Posts: 9
The better fighter will win.

I don't know your skill level or the skill level of another person. The best you can do is roll with this person and maybe learn something, win or lose.

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#164764 - 07/07/05 03:02 AM Re: bjj vs. kung fu [Re: trunkz]
Ubermint Offline
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Registered: 06/23/05
Posts: 154
Quote:

hi,
i know some bjj moves myself and im wondering if i ever face an opponent who knows kung fu (which i hope not), who's more likely to come out of the battle and not ending up in a hospital.




You do not "know" any bjj "moves". You either train BJJ at a real academy or you don't. Period.
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#164765 - 07/07/05 11:39 AM Re: bjj vs. kung fu [Re: Ubermint]
Fletch1 Offline
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Registered: 06/21/04
Posts: 2218
Loc: Florida
You never know. Often we see people with limited formal BJJ training who learned from tapes do quite well. With enough sparring time, I would not be surprised to see someone arrive at some of the same conclusions that a student of a BJJ BB does.

There could be a major time difference and some details might be missing, but overall, if you are testing what you are doing in an athletic, competitive environment, you are on the right track.
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#164766 - 07/07/05 12:41 PM Re: bjj vs. kung fu [Re: BigRod]
Rayman452 Offline
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Registered: 04/15/05
Posts: 76
Loc: Canada
Everybody has 2 hands and 2 feet, so how can there be different styles of fighting? Its just emphasis on what you use your hands and feet for. Better training is the key. Just pull some matrix moves and you're safe.

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#164767 - 07/07/05 12:48 PM Re: bjj vs. kung fu [Re: Rayman452]
oldman Offline
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Registered: 07/28/04
Posts: 5884
Quote:

Everybody has 2 hands and 2 feet, so how can there be different styles of fighting? Its just emphasis on what you use your hands and feet for. Better training is the key. Just pull some matrix moves and you're safe.




This gem of wisdom brought to you by Rayman452 the "Lockpicking Cadet".

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#164768 - 07/07/05 12:52 PM Re: bjj vs. kung fu [Re: Rayman452]
JoelM Offline
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Registered: 07/26/04
Posts: 6355
Loc: Georgia, USA
Quote:

Just pull some matrix moves and you're safe.



Like sticking a giant metal stake through the back of your skull? That's about what your post made me want to do.
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#164769 - 07/07/05 01:05 PM Re: bjj vs. kung fu [Re: JoelM]
BuDoc Offline
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Registered: 05/03/05
Posts: 1067
Loc: USA and Abroad
hahahahahaha

Now that was funny

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#164770 - 07/07/05 01:08 PM Re: bjj vs. kung fu [Re: JoelM]
Ayub Offline
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Registered: 11/26/04
Posts: 825
Loc: London, UK
There is a video on the net of this exact fight. Royce Gracie vs a 15 year Kung fu practitioner that is apparantly undefeated. The moral of that video was:
'It is almost impossible for a person trained in purely striking to not get wrapped up and taken down'

Royce even went easy on him.

HOWEVER a kung fu person who is more a complete fighter may defeat a BJJ practitioner and that fight will depend on those two individuals.

- Ayub
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#164771 - 07/07/05 04:07 PM Re: bjj vs. kung fu [Re: Ayub]
FCFS Offline
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Registered: 01/06/05
Posts: 83
that was one of the earlier UFC, UFC2 or UFC3 i have to go back to my tapes, it also depend on if the kung fu man has done any ground work, and it also depend if the kung fu man good enough to stay on his feet, to many probabilities hard to tell.

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#164772 - 07/07/05 04:54 PM Re: bjj vs. kung fu [Re: FCFS]
oldman Offline
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Registered: 07/28/04
Posts: 5884
Guys,
Keep in mind (going back to the beginning of the thread) We are talking to a person who "knows" a couple of moves. Maybe he will be fortunate find a comensuretly skilled kung fu stylist and they can walk around each other for 15 minutes or so saying things like "Come on BEEOTCH" and "You don't know MEEEE". After that they can return to the hum drum routine of 200 channels of satalite tv.

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#164773 - 07/07/05 07:24 PM Re: bjj vs. kung fu [Re: FCFS]
Anonymous
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Quote:

that was one of the earlier UFC, UFC2 or UFC3 i have to go back to my tapes, it also depend on if the kung fu man has done any ground work, and it also depend if the kung fu man good enough to stay on his feet, to many probabilities hard to tell.




No, it was a private formal challenge made to Royce or the video claims (it has one of his brothers commentating).

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#164774 - 07/07/05 09:02 PM Re: bjj vs. kung fu
eyrie Offline
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Registered: 12/28/04
Posts: 3106
Loc: QLD, Australia
How is it that Anonymous unregistered people can post?
I think this thread is going nowhere fast....

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#164775 - 07/07/05 10:06 PM Re: bjj vs. kung fu [Re: eyrie]
Fletch1 Offline
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Registered: 06/21/04
Posts: 2218
Loc: Florida
I agree. It has gone seriously off topic. For this reason, I am going to lock it down now. If someone seriously has a good reason to keep it open, PM me.
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