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#164237 - 07/17/05 03:26 PM Re: Shaolin- Do Katas [Re: nekogami13 V2.0]
ShueyBaw Offline
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Quote:

No comment about a Kung Fu style that has kata?
Kata are japanese, Kung Fu is Chinese.




I was informed that Shaolin Kung Fu instead uses sets instead of kata so to speak and that you are kind of encouraged to make your own, though there are older ones of course. I think kata or sets should be only passed down master to student personaly unless you are going to make your own becuase they should hold the essence of the art.

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#164238 - 07/17/05 05:05 PM Re: Shaolin- Do Katas [Re: ShueyBaw]
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I was informed that Shaolin Kung Fu instead uses sets instead of kata so to speak and that you are kind of encouraged to make your own, though there are older ones of course. I think kata or sets should be only passed down master to student personaly unless you are going to make your own becuase they should hold the essence of the art.



lol. did someone drop a babble-bomb on this forum...or maybe it's the heat? suddenly no one is making any linguistic sense.

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#164239 - 07/17/05 07:24 PM Re: Shaolin- Do Katas [Re: Kintama]
ShueyBaw Offline
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If you cant say anything nice....or useful....dont say anything at all.

I was just trying to say that Kung Fu has sets and Karate has kata.


Edited by ShueyBaw (07/17/05 07:32 PM)

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#164240 - 07/17/05 10:19 PM Re: Shaolin- Do Katas [Re: ShueyBaw]
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ok..I'll start being nice if you start being useful.

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#164241 - 07/17/05 10:52 PM Re: Shaolin- Do Katas [Re: ShueyBaw]
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Shuey,

You have to admit that story line on the lineage of this style of Kung Fu seems an awfully lot like a bad MA movie. I mean if it's true....it's true. But I would certainly like to see some other disinterested info to confirm it.

-B

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#164242 - 07/17/05 11:58 PM Re: Shaolin- Do Katas [Re: butterfly]
ShueyBaw Offline
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Shuey,

You have to admit that story line on the lineage of this style of Kung Fu seems an awfully lot like a bad MA movie. I mean if it's true....it's true. But I would certainly like to see some other disinterested info to confirm it.

-B




What? I'm just talking about Shaolin Kung Fu from the temples of Northern China and the scattered southern monastery. I'm not sure what you are talking about, I'm just talking about Shaolin Kung Fu sets.

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#164243 - 07/18/05 02:49 AM Re: Shaolin- Do Katas [Re: ShueyBaw]
nekogami13 V2.0 Offline
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The website and the student here calls them kata-I know every one else refers to them as forms or sets.

The history makes several suspicious claims-one of them being the founder, grandmaster, whatever received a blackbelt in kung fu in 1940's.
They gave out blackbelts in kung fu then?
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#164244 - 07/18/05 04:41 PM Re: Shaolin- Do Katas [Re: nekogami13 V2.0]
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First, let me say that I have been practicing shaolin-do for a year and a half now. In my area, there is a ju-jitsu school, a tkd school, and shaolin-do school. I am a member of the ju-jitsu for 5 months, and shaolin for 14 months. Sure, there are things that I don't buy into about the lineage of the school, but frankly it doesn't matter to me as long as I enjoy what we do. I know I will never be a UFC champion, but that doesn't matter to me.

As for the teaching of the forms, my instructor does a (in my opinion) good job of showing applications to what we learn.

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#164245 - 07/19/05 11:54 AM Re: Shaolin- Do Katas [Re: coxne]
b_d_41501 Offline
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As does mine coxne. We bring in many other grappling styles in class as well. Just because you have never heard of something doesn't mean that it's no good either.

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#164246 - 07/19/05 02:32 PM Re: Shaolin- Do Katas [Re: b_d_41501]
ShueyBaw Offline
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As does mine coxne. We bring in many other grappling styles in class as well. Just because you have never heard of something doesn't mean that it's no good either.




Indeed, I'm a member of the IMSS, and we have all kinds of styles from Shorin Ryu Karate to Ninjitsu to Tae Kwon Do and teach skills such as Phillipino knife fighting techniques for example, and we all learn from each other and grow better, that is after all what the Shaolin Monastery did, act as a gathering place of knowledge and techniques, adding new styles and growing stronger as it went.

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