This page gives a very basic overview of what the art consists of and a very very brief overlook at its history. Grandmaster Sin The also has set up a few of his own webpages that help to explain the history and practices of the art. http://www.shaolin-do.com/ http://www.sinthe.com/

This a recent devised system at best, its history talks about the Shaolin temple as if they are 1, yet by its class format its obviously they are not. It doesn't say how this Shaolin-do came about (a Chinese and Japanese term), it sounds like something born in Kentucky from the 70s it goes from sifu to sensie. Or what year this concept origin. Everything is generalized and untraceable. In almost each rank Grade a life time of studies is introduces as seen below.

1st Black belt to Second BB

Tai Chi Ch'uan Yang Tai Chi (64)
Pa Kua Chang Classical Pa Kua
....... and on and on

It starts Iron Body training at its highest rank level, if you ain't got it by then it ain't gonna do you much go 45-60+.

I attempted to show you were you could go to look up the info that you requested. I am not going to force feed it to you. The pages I sent you will shed some light on you issue if you will just explore and read them. The SDA has a good background and history of the art if you just go read it. If you can't find it or read then I will go and copy and past it for you. This method of force feeding information shows a lack of effort on your part and I would love to not have to resort to it. However, sometimes narrow minds call for desperate measures

I realise as stated by one of the Shaolin-Do practitioners that this thread is not about it's credentials or history and fair enough you're right, so I'm going to create a new topic for some heated discussion on the subject. Let's party on...!!! Shaolin Do pracitioners - comments of your experiences in all aspects of your training/art would be greatly welcomed as I don't want this discussion to be a one sided slagging match. Cheers.

Sorry for double posting, but the discussion topic has been posted in the karate forum. Well I couldn't decide whether it was chinese/japanese so......;)

I don't understand why everyone's up for bashing Shaolin. I've met GM Sin-The several times, and have been studying the art for three years. So far, it's been very useful in both mind and body training. As for the history, I fully trust the Grandmaster, whether people from other forms do or not. I am also a student of Ninjitsu, a form of Ninja training. So far, I am more fond of Shaolin-Do.

That's just my two bits.

And to the fellow who originally posted here, you say you study in Harlan? I believe, when there is a GM test (next one being in March and the last one in September), that your gym comes to my gym in Corbin for testing, no?

Shaolin-Do Katas are great for strength, balance, and coordination. The reason that SOME of the schools wear the karate uniform, and the reason that some japanese terminology is used in SOME of the Shaolin-Do schools is very clear, if you research the life of Grandmaster Ie Chang Ming. Those that that a limited education, or even much experience in Martial Arts (or Chinese history) should respect any Martial Art styles and not discount their life changing benefits because they don't understand a few minor details. Shaolin-Do has evolved over the past 4 decades and now is taught as Chinese Shaolin Kung-Fu, and also as the original Shaolin-Do Karate, depending on the school. All schools are under the direction and sanction of Grandmaster The' (pronounced tay) and teach a wealth of great material. Like in a university, a student finds his own path of concentration and talent, after absorbing much beneficial material. One technique may be great for one person, but not work for another - however the principles behind the study are beneficial. Grandmaster The' is one of the most sincere and caring instructors that I have ever met in the over 40 years that I have personally known him. I have traveled the country, and worked out with many styles and schools, and I can honestly say the the Shaolin-Do practitioners are a close brotherhood of caring people - many with exceptional abilities and unique talent. That is probably why one U.S. school in the 1960s has spread to easily over 300 schools (or more)in almost every state and around the world.