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#163730 - 07/05/05 08:12 AM Re: What happens to instructors/students when... [Re: MattJ]
JohnL Offline
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I am curious too. I read on this site that Shotokan does not have any ranks higher than 5th because that's what rank Funakoshi was when he died. Is this true?

Shotokan does have any number of high dan grades awarded, 6th - 10th. As far as I'm aware there was no restriction placed on ranks in shotoka. The only group I know of that made this restriction is the Shotokai group. This was run by Harada who is a 5th dan, on the basis that nothing higher is possible due to Funakoshi's rank.

My own opinion, it's all a load of BS.

You have have those who award themselves and their student high dan grades and those that keep them deliberately low. Both types try to claim some kind of moral high ground.

As for having to wear a white belt if you haven't been to the dojo for a couple of months. Tell the instructor he needs to get a life if that's all he's got to think about.
John L

#163731 - 07/05/05 10:15 AM Re: What happens to instructors/students when... [Re: JohnL]
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About the 2-month absentee loss of rank...never heard of it.
I'm thinking there are two possible motivations for this:
-To strongly encourage a consistant commitment to training.
-To make money.

both motivations still don't make sense, since commitment by a student cannot be artificialy enforced. and people are less likely to re-start training if they need to leave for medical, mental health, family needs, giving birth, school, army reserve commitments, extended vacation, etc.


#163732 - 07/05/05 01:03 PM Re: What happens to instructors/students when... [Re: Kintama]
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#163733 - 07/05/05 04:13 PM Re: What happens to instructors/students when... [Re: oldman]
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Nice one oldman.
I say the Inst. keeps training, thus going up in rank. In the time it took to take his students from whit to red, you would think he could advance one dan right? He would of course slow down in his rate of earning higher rank as he went, but so would his students. I teach nearly 3 hours away from our home school, but I continue training and reporting back to my instructor and I can still advance in rank as I advance in knowledge and such. Of course if I only had a few thousand dollars or so, I could buy myself a master rank or one of those multicolored belts! I don't know, maybe I'll just make up my own rank and claim to be the only registered plaid belt in the world. Anyone wanna buy your way into sharing this honor for a small one-time fee?
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