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#163526 - 11/22/05 12:19 PM Re: Did Bruce Lee do kata? [Re: GojuRyuboy13]
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Bruce Lee was a student of Yip Man, we can agree with that, right. Did Yip Man teach kuens, all Wing Chun systems did. Bruce also studied other Gung-fu systems among other arts they all the gung-fu are teach Kuens. Only after attain a certain proficency did he declare his opinion on forms or Kuens. One thing about Lee that I've seen is that his JKD students that didn't have a back ground in other systems their techniques were powerful but are not as clean and sharp as Lee's or Guru Dans (you know he did forms/Kata being a 3rd dan in Am Kenpo).

In a tapped performance for a flim role Bruce combined a Praying Mantis and White Crane form/Kuen. He states that it was a White Crane form. Its shows his flexibility and speed, its kinda of rough but man was he fast.

We need to stop comparing the Student Lee that trained and done as he was told with the inovative Jr. Master Sifu Lee that changed how most people studied their art. Still we must seek whats best for us, in the begining we don't know. But we can't take the advice of Masters talking to Masters, when we are babes.

Few people train like or studied like Lee, and fewer will attain skills like Bruce Lee.

Have you watch Guru Dan when he younger move he's awesome he states that Lee moved much better. Can you even imagine that?


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#163527 - 11/22/05 06:20 PM Re: Did Bruce Lee do kata? [Re: Neko456]
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Quote:

In a tapped performance for a flim role Bruce combined a Praying Mantis and White Crane form/Kuen. He states that it was a White Crane form. Its shows his flexibility and speed, its kinda of rough but man was he fast.




I think you're talking about this clip.

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#163528 - 11/23/05 11:01 AM Re: Did Bruce Lee do kata? [Re: elmastero1]
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I can't pull it up now but if its the performance in a black suit and tie, yes. He does the kata/kuen as he explains what it is.
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#163529 - 11/24/05 09:41 AM Re: Did Bruce Lee do kata? [Re: Neko456]
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Thats it. That was back when he still a "gung fu" man. A few years before the JKD concept came along I believe.
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#163530 - 12/07/05 02:12 PM Re: Did Bruce Lee do kata? [Re: GojuRyuboy13]
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Up to a point. Then he says that he lost stopped getting the benifits of it.Hence the start of JKD.
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And I guess we could call them forms and not Kata to stop the confusion
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#163531 - 12/18/05 10:19 AM Re: Did Bruce Lee do kata? [Re: Neko456]
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the interveiw for the film role that fell through wasn't it? then he scares the crap out of the guy interveiwing him.

is kuen the chinese name for kata?
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#163532 - 12/19/05 04:23 AM Re: Did Bruce Lee do kata? [Re: Neko456]
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A quote from Jesse Glover, one of Lee's seattle students

"As far as forms and such-like go, I feel it's true to say that by the time Bruce had arrived at the conclusion that forms had no great significance he had already acquired at least ninety-percent of his skill!"
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#163533 - 12/21/05 04:11 PM Re: Did Bruce Lee do kata? [Re: funstick5000]
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Yes Kuen is the what the Some Kung-fu guys call forms.

I agree with Jesse Glover, Lee made his decision after gaining the benefit of forms, then stated that time would be better served by sparring. Or something like that, formless systems leads to sloopy fighting. But is that important maybe, maybe not as long as its effective.
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#163534 - 12/21/05 04:25 PM Re: Did Bruce Lee do kata? [Re: Neko456]
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Glover is also sceptical about JKD as a 'reality' rather than a 'concept'. He reckons that books such as Tao of JKD are useless for the vast majority of MAists as he feels they never reach the level Lee was at to enter into the arena he was in.
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#163535 - 12/22/05 11:12 AM Re: Did Bruce Lee do kata? [Re: funstick5000]
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I believe the filmed interview/demo where Bruce did forms was for the role of the Green Hornet...I think he was 24 at the time of the interview, it has been a while since I saw it.

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