Taison
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Seen it like 25 times already, and the VCD is right here next to me. . .
To clearify on his style of Muay Boran I've thought about writing a little article on it. . .
Muay Kochasarn [Chang Tam Rai Rong] [Elephant Boxing] One of the most violent MT style there is in Thailand. Originated in the central plateu, this art was invented by the "Jaturankbath", or Elephant Guards. These guards were the King's bodyguard in a way but their duty was to protect the royal elephant's four limbs at all cost as an "Albino Elephant" is very rare[today only 11 exist in Thailand, 5 in Burma]. These guards were trained in most MT styles that existed during that time[middle of the 1800's] and as they became closer with their elephant masters [yes, the guards served the elephants], they started to imitate the elephants.
The four main movement in Muay Kochasarn are 1)Grab 2)Throw 3)Fall on 4)Break. I don't want to go into details, but all four sums up the main movements, which in practice is very similar to Aiki-jujutsu or Judo except, power is emphasized more than technique [Which all MT styles does]. The focus of this style is to break limbs all the time, as the guards were only 4 at a time, while the enemy would rush against them as the king was on their elephant. Imagine, they would be faced at incredible odds at a time, like 15 to 1. [To be honest, these guards have never failed, not even once has the king ever been defeated due to the death of the elephant.]
Unlike most MT styles, Muay Kochasarn has a lot of PP striking mostly at the knees, elbow, collar bone, under the ribs and neck. This is very violent, though, as an elbow to the rib can immediately break it and couple that with a shoulder throw, those broken bones may puncture your intestines. Every throw is begun with a "stun factor", elbow or knee to a PP, and then followed with a throw. Once the throw has been executed the victim is then punished once again with a breaking maneuver, maybe sitting down on their knee-cap, jumping into the air and landing with your knee on their elbow, etc.
-Taison out
[Edit] Lifted this from the MA film forum. I want you to discuss the style. If you want to know more about the movie, go to the Movie Forum and ask. I'll answer with the best of my ability, especially with this stupid broken English grammar I have.
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That style does sound very interseting. I doubt many people train in it as well. Do they have many kicks and knees in the style? It seems that with all the grabbing and throwing where is there room to kick.
#233935 - 02/25/0610:15 PMRe: Tom Yum Goong
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Taison
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The stun factor is the knee/elbow. Every entry starts with a kick to advance to close quarters, then elbow/knee is used to stun and then deliver a throw. After the throw, breaking of limb/bone.
It's not strange not many people have heard of this style as it was only taught within the Royal Temple guards. Nowadays, it follows more of an Aikijujutsu-esque with disarms for modern weapons and equipment.
This style is one of the three main component of Lerd-rit.
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It seems like the art is based around disabling of your opponent, rather than killing him. I must say I like the idea, breaking limbs is a very effective form of self defense, and often is much better than going for the knock-out.
I was wondering, how much of Muay Kochasarn is "acrobatic", or has Panom Yeerum added that in from his gymnastic background? Is Muay Kochasarn taught to anyone these days? Is the style so "violent" because the Jaturankbath were so outnumbered in battle that they had to get rid of enemies without using too much energy? One last question (sorry!) was Muay Kochasarn taught to be used in that order (1)Grab 2)Throw 3)Fall on 4)Break)?
Enough questions from me, thanks for your knowledge Taison
#233941 - 03/20/0611:56 PMRe: Tom Yum Goong
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Muay Kochasarn these days is taught within the lerdrit system of self defense in the Thai military.
Yes, it goes in that order. Grab, throw, fall on, break. Actually, each technique starts with an entering "shock" which can be anything from elbow to chest, knee to groin, slap to ear, finger to eyes to create an opening then the technique is performed.
Quote: Is the style so "violent" because the Jaturankbath were so outnumbered in battle that they had to get rid of enemies without using too much energy?
Yes. It is normal when you're at odds, people ususally develop a very violent nature for self defense. Not only did they need to protect themselves, but as well as the elephant's limbs. Imagine doing that when you're outnumbered.
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