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#157741 - 09/23/05 02:58 PM Re: A personal preference on Speed or power [Re: h3kk]
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the attack might would hurt him somewhat but i think it might would hurt you just as much. all his force crushing into your fist could easily break your wrist. and i also don't believe that speed always equals power. for example like i said if a fast but very small person hit a big or bigger person it might not would have much effect on the bigger person now if the smaller person did the same with much more muscle mass then the outcome might be different. the thing is to be strong but also fast. neither of the two alone will work well for long.

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#157742 - 09/25/05 07:41 AM Re: A personal preference on Speed or power [Re: etaks86]
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How about this? A smaller faster guy is more likely to get in the first few shots. Right? Well what if he attacks the groin or eyes. It's gonna hurt like hell even if you're 280lbs of muscle. What I'm saying is that for competition, yes that the bigger guy usually wins, but when there's no rules, and the first few shots are all that matter, then i would go for speed.
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#157743 - 10/01/05 03:08 AM Re: A personal preference on Speed or power [Re: jkdwarrior]
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sure sure maybe.

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#157744 - 10/06/05 06:39 AM Re: A personal preference on Speed or power [Re: etaks86]
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The definition of Power is moving large weight at slow speed. I would personally never consider a strike from this perspective.

So if your asking what I'd train more between power and speed, it's always gonna be speed.

If your worried that your gonna break your wrist if you strike something too well. Then I'd suggest a heavy bag.

With speed and technique, will come great force in your strikes.
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#157745 - 10/08/05 11:10 AM Re: A personal preference on Speed or power [Re: Chen Zen]
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Of course to achieve both is ideal. Speed is the way I would go if I had to choose, depending only on my abilities. If I was a bad striker and not good at getting inside... I would use my speed to run away.

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#157746 - 10/09/05 04:45 PM Re: A personal preference on Speed or power [Re: foreverrocker]
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I for one used to train for speed only and I thought it was going pretty good until a few months ago me and a friend of mine decided to full contact spar. There isnt much of a difference in hieght and wieght between us so I thought I would win easaly since I train like crazy. It turned out that I was faster than him but my hits felt like girly hits and his few hits felt like he was 100lbs hievier. That got me mad training all that time for nothing. We are both Masons but hes been doing it longer than i have so he doesnt need to lift any wieghts. So I changed my training ways to focus more on power and strenth.

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#157747 - 10/13/05 03:16 PM Re: A personal preference on Speed or power [Re: otobeawanker]
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What?? Have any of you guys taken physics? I definitely choose power because speed is part of power; or rather, quickness.
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#157748 - 10/30/05 12:31 PM Re: A personal preference on Speed or power [Re: Chen Zen]
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As a martial artist do you seek to have Exceptional speed and moderate power or do you train for power with adequate speed?

Personally, I lean towards speed, seeking to attain power from it.




Being built like a string bean, but blessed with natural quickness, common sense tells me to train towards my strengths while doing my best to compensate for my weaknesses. So I emphasize speed, while hitting the weights to bring strength and mass along as much as possible.
That said, if I had my druthers, I'd opt for strength with adequate speed so long as the third side of the "triangle", good coordination and timing, is present.
If you can flow from one attack into the next with power, or defend-attack-defend-attack with fluidity and power, adequate speed is all you need.
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#157749 - 12/02/05 11:26 AM Re: A personal preference on Speed or power [Re: MAGon]
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Always a great contributor. Good answer Magon
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#157750 - 12/10/05 03:06 AM Re: A personal preference on Speed or power [Re: Chen Zen]
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Always a great contributor. Good answer Magon




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