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#157731 - 08/18/05 06:39 AM Re: A personal preference on Speed or power [Re: funstick5000]
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Speed equals Power

Power does not equal speed.

Would you rather, get hit by a bullet moving 3000 feet per second. Or hit by a large truck doing 10 mph.
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#157732 - 08/18/05 06:40 AM Re: A personal preference on Speed or power [Re: otobeawanker]
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Speed equals Power

Power does not equal speed.

Would you rather, get hit by a bullet moving 3000 feet per second. Or hit by a large truck doing 10 mph.




Whew.....that's a toughie..
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#157733 - 09/02/05 09:18 PM Re: A personal preference on Speed or power [Re: Chen Zen]
64445 Offline
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its all about snap my friend, tightning the muscles at the last possible moment to cause the whip effect which accelerates your srike causing more impact power. then follow through with the turning of the waist.

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#157734 - 09/18/05 02:28 PM Re: A personal preference on Speed or power [Re: otobeawanker]
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Speed equals Power

Power does not equal speed.

Would you rather, get hit by a bullet moving 3000 feet per second. Or hit by a large truck doing 10 mph.




I don't know man, I just quite can't see myself getting out of the way of the truck in time.

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#157735 - 09/20/05 08:29 AM Re: A personal preference on Speed or power [Re: Chen Zen]
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I tend to train my lead hand and foot for speed when standing just outside fighting measure. However, when i find an opportunity for a big shot, E.g after my opponent reacts to a feint, i let it fly. That isn't to say that the lead shots shouldn't be powerful, with correct movement of your centre of gravity and body torque your leading straight punch can even knock a person out. sometimes, i like to jab a few times to try and keep the opponent on the defensive and at the same time i torque my body round fully to get in the position for my most powerful cross.
I think that speed is probably more important (especailly with footwork) but you also need to know how to throw your power shots when the time comes. don't forget that even the smallest of people can hit very hard. For me, focusing on my technique has increased both my speed and power dramatically. I sincerely believe that once you learn proper technique by many hours of specifically training to improve it, then all aspects of your martial art will greatly improve.

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#157736 - 09/20/05 11:20 AM Re: A personal preference on Speed or power [Re: jkdwarrior]
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I think a equal portion of both is required speed at a distance is immeasurably important, but power inside weather in technique or just skilled brute strength is important when in close clinching and grappling + techniques/counters. Leverage is great and starts a techniques, but Technique with power is almost unstoppable when vying for control. A certain amount of quickenss helps inside.

But all this is for not, if taken out from long to mid range, speed and accuracy that deliever powerful strikes at these ranges are utmost important counter defensively and offensively.

I work more for speed being naturelly powerful.
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#157737 - 09/20/05 03:49 PM Re: A personal preference on Speed or power [Re: otobeawanker]
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Speed equals Power

Power does not equal speed.

Would you rather, get hit by a bullet moving 3000 feet per second. Or hit by a large truck doing 10 mph.




I'd rather not get hit

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#157738 - 09/20/05 05:08 PM Re: A personal preference on Speed or power [Re: ChangLab]
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Niether, one will blow right through you possibly killing you the other will knock you down and crush you to death.

I'd rather be wise enough not to be in its way. The path of least resistance. Speed and power is whats needed.

I'd rather have a glancing blow from the truck, you could possible turn, roll out of it. A glancing strike from the projectile gonna hurt bad. Thats really an example that favors the speed option.


Edited by Neko456 (09/20/05 05:08 PM)
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#157739 - 09/20/05 09:35 PM Re: A personal preference on Speed or power [Re: Neko456]
etaks86 Offline
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Both are important. So i say a equal amount of both.
to much wight fat/muscle will make you slower, and to much speed by to much speed i mean someone who only trains speed and is weak has no real muscle mass it will be hard for the fast but weak person to hurt a large person used to being hit. so a equal amount of both is the answer that will get the best results in combat and or sparring. that's my opinion anyway. i havn't posted in awhile before this one so hi and later to everyone.

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#157740 - 09/20/05 10:40 PM Re: A personal preference on Speed or power [Re: Chen Zen]
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the question is how would you train? the speed ofcourse, equals to power. wat i mean by my question is, obviously when you train for speed, it would strenghthen yourself during the process...be it, weight lifting, running, speed punching, and so on. all these, would strenghthen your muscle and with that moderate power plus speed and distance and timing...you'll have quite a pack in your attacks. combat is more about speed, distance and timing...brute force would just do the opposite to you. in conclusion, my example is...if a guy charges at you, you attack a good spot at the right timing, with the right speed, your movement has momentum in it, plus your relase of your fists *personal power*, and the momentum of the opponent charging at you. If you add all these up...your attack would be devastating
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