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#147445 - 05/21/05 11:01 PM what martial art was origanly ment for killing?
Donte Offline
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just wondering if anyone knew........cause i dont
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#147446 - 05/22/05 02:59 PM Re: what martial art was origanly ment for killing? [Re: Donte]
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I would say Kenjutsu and Ninjutsu. Im not sure if anyone would agree? Both of those arts were durived during a time where the samurai and ninja had to fight to the death. They werent out to score points thats for sure.

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#147447 - 05/22/05 04:31 PM Re: what martial art was origanly ment for killing? [Re: Donte]
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Donte

Dude pretty much ALL of them--that was the original intent of all "martial" arts.

Eastern, western, etc.

Why all the questions about killing and all--your posting these on a number or threads--why?


Edited by cxt (05/22/05 04:32 PM)
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#147448 - 05/22/05 05:08 PM Re: what martial art was origanly ment for killing? [Re: cxt]
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Donte

Dude pretty much ALL of them--that was the original intent of all "martial" arts.
that is not true, tae kwon dow was spacificaly made in koria by farmers that kept on getting theyr crops stolen
karate was made just to defend one's self
and most martial arts were not ment for kiling, but i know theyr are like 5 or 6 and i want to leanr them

Eastern, western, etc.

Why all the questions about killing and all--your posting these on a number or threads--why?


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#147449 - 05/22/05 05:38 PM Re: what martial art was origanly ment for killing? [Re: Donte]
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Donte

Actually most TKD was largely based on Okinawan/Japanese karate which itself was not "really" developed by farmers.

Karate was developed as a "last ditch" method of fighting for your life. And its form and function was pretty much used to save yourself and inflict grevious harm on your attacker--up to and including killing him.

Defending ones self and killing are a pretty fine line--often a question of semantics rather than design, as far as arts go.

If you wish to discuss karate etc then please address your question the proper forum--this is the Daito forum and questions pertaining to karate/tkd and the like do not belong here.

I will answer no more questions about arts not asked on the correct forum.
Happy to discuss them on the right one though.
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#147450 - 05/22/05 11:34 PM Re: what martial art was origanly ment for killing? [Re: cxt]
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Donte

Actually most TKD was largely based on Okinawan/Japanese karate which itself was not "really" developed by farmers.

Karate was developed as a "last ditch" method of fighting for your life. And its form and function was pretty much used to save yourself and inflict grevious harm on your attacker--up to and including killing him.

Defending ones self and killing are a pretty fine line--often a question of semantics rather than design, as far as arts go.

If you wish to discuss karate etc then please address your question the proper forum--this is the Daito forum and questions pertaining to karate/tkd and the like do not belong here.

I will answer no more questions about arts not asked on the correct forum.
Happy to discuss them on the right one though.



...you make me sad
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#147451 - 05/25/05 01:36 PM Re: what martial art was origanly ment for killing? [Re: modernwarrior]
Donte Offline
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I would say Kenjutsu and Ninjutsu. Im not sure if anyone would agree? Both of those arts were durived during a time where the samurai and ninja had to fight to the death. They werent out to score points thats for sure.



ok i reaserched that and thats sword fighting and ib dont really do that (by the way i cant spell great sorry)
but i had hear of a martial are called showshoe.......... i know i didnt spell it right but thats now it sounds..........anyone heard of it ,some old man told me to look into it
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#147452 - 06/05/05 05:53 PM Re: what martial art was origanly ment for killing? [Re: Donte]
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Every single martial art out there, was at one point used to defend yourself if you lost your sword or weapon on the battlefield. They all were lethal and extremely effective. They would usually learn weak points in their opponents armor and where and how to stike their opponents to kill them or imobilize them, and they would also have to learn how to move in thier own armor. Now a days most martial arts are taught for self improvement and perfection of one self, Or for competition. But as far as I know every single martial art traced back far enough was deadly and could be used for killing. But I dont know why you would wanna kill anybody these days unless you plan to be in a war.

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#147453 - 06/22/05 10:56 AM Re: what martial art was origanly ment for killing? [Re: Donte]
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All martial arts are meant for killing.

The difference is how this fact is worked with by various arts, styles and schools. Most places "sneak-up" on the fact by teaching the most superficial and non-lethal material first and saving the most lethal for later.

Some places teach the lethal material up front and just let the chips fall as they may.

Some sanitize their material by taking what might have originated as a lethal technique and shifted it to pain compliance, a throw or a lock instead of a choke or break, thrust or cut.

In todays modern world, most of what you find is "Civilian" arts not "martial" arts. This does not make them bad. I just think its important not to kid ourselves about what it is that is taught, what is learned and why, thats all. FWIW.

Best Wishes,

Bruce

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#147454 - 06/23/05 04:39 AM Re: what martial art was origanly ment for killing? [Re: glad2bhere]
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First of all, it's called fragging, and the first thing you need to do is master circle strafing. Now there are several different styles of play you can use, like camping,-

Wait, we're not playing quake here?

Oh, I see. Well in the real world, secret death techniques are urban legends.
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