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#156074 - 06/15/05 11:23 PM Re: Hypocrisy [Re: harlan]
wolfscalissi Offline

Registered: 04/13/05
Posts: 103
Loc: austin, TX usa

Wolf...I was hoping you would give us the answer!

well I thought I did. lets see I will go find some more "enlightenment" to step

A special transmission outside the scriptures, not based on words or letters, a direct pointing to the heart of reality so that we might see into our own nature and wake up!


ok I'm going to point now . can you see it?


ps jump in the puddles. catch snowflakes on your tounge. count the stars in the sky. what does a pickle taste like anyway? (if you could see me smiling would it help?)
Warning! objects in mirror are not as enlightened as they appear.

#156075 - 06/15/05 11:27 PM Re: Hypocrisy [Re: wolfscalissi]
wolfscalissi Offline

Registered: 04/13/05
Posts: 103
Loc: austin, TX usa
now before we all get upset these are just the scriptures and quotes that are out there for all of us. have fun with it. Dont let the words close your mind. see my signature below

Warning! objects in mirror are not as enlightened as they appear.

#156076 - 06/16/05 12:15 AM Re: Hypocrisy [Re: wolfscalissi]
eyrie Offline
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The Zen master Mu-nan had only one successor. His name was Shoju. After Shoju had completed his study of Zen, Mu-nan called him into his room. "I am getting old," he said, "and as far as I know, Shoju, you are the only one who will carry on this teaching. Here is a book. It has been passed down from master to master for seven generations. I have also added many points according to my understanding. The book is very valuable, and I am giving it to you to represent your successorhip."

"If the book is such an important thing, you had better keep it," Shoju replied. "I received your Zen without writing and am satisfied with it as it is."
"I know that," said Mu-nan. "Even so, this work has been carried from master to master for seven generations, so you may keep it as a symbol of having received the teaching. Here."

They happened to be talking before a brazier. The instant Shoju felt the book in his hands he thrust it into the flaming coals. He had no lust for possessions. Mu-nan, who never had been angry before, yelled: "What are you doing!" Shoju shouted back: "What are you saying!"

Source: Zen Flesh, Zen Bones

#156077 - 06/16/05 01:20 AM Re: Hypocrisy [Re: wolfscalissi]
Kintama Offline
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Registered: 04/17/05
Posts: 2724
Loc: Massachusetts
Hypocrisy is falseness.
Zen is maintaining a path to enlightenment.
Suicide is veering off a cliff to non-enlightenment.

therefore: Hypocrisy + Zenist = Suicide

#156078 - 06/16/05 07:16 AM Re: Hypocrisy [Re: Kintama]
nenipp Offline

Registered: 04/13/04
Posts: 1205
What's Zen to a hypocrate?

#156079 - 06/16/05 04:49 PM Re: Hypocrisy [Re: oldman]
schanne Offline
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Registered: 02/18/04
Posts: 4370
Loc: Woodbury NJ
Have to agree with Matt, truth.
The way of the warrior does not include other ways... Miyamoto Musashi Schanne

#156080 - 06/16/05 09:32 PM Re: Hypocrisy [Re: schanne]
Kintama Offline
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hypocracy is living a lie even for non-Zenists.

#156081 - 06/16/05 10:10 PM Re: Hypocrisy [Re: oldman]
KiDoHae Offline
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Registered: 06/29/04
Posts: 999

What is Hypocrisy to a Zenist?

no such thing, it is what it is....

#156082 - 06/21/05 09:23 PM Re: Hypocrisy [Re: nenipp]
Foolsgold Offline

Registered: 09/02/04
Posts: 1635
Loc: South Lyon, MI, USA

What's Zen to a hypocrate?

Find me someone who isn't to use as a reference and I'll find an answer for you.
Soy stupido, pero soy guapo!

#156083 - 06/21/05 09:32 PM Re: Hypocrisy [Re: Foolsgold]
oldman Offline
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Posts: 5884
"Let he who is without sin cast the first Koan".

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