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#154877 - 06/12/05 06:48 PM Re: Oldman at Borders. [Re: harlan]
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I like the way you think. I can't decide which word is most fitting crass, or lowbrow. Bo-ken I have had friends offer to put a site together. I guess we'll see where this all goes. Thank everybody for the input, I appreciate it.

#154878 - 06/12/05 08:29 PM Re: Oldman at Borders. [Re: oldman]
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Registered: 09/02/04
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Loc: South Lyon, MI, USA
Don't do it. I'm only saying this 'cuz I gotta, and I'd rather not explain why *wince*.
Soy stupido, pero soy guapo!

#154879 - 06/12/05 08:51 PM Re: Oldman at Borders. [Re: Foolsgold]
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Even privately?

#154880 - 06/12/05 09:30 PM Re: Oldman at Borders. [Re: oldman]
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Didn't even think of it. Check your PMs for my own little "novel" .
Soy stupido, pero soy guapo!

#154881 - 06/13/05 05:09 PM Re: Oldman at Borders. [Re: oldman]
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You could always give it a try on a small scale using pre-orders.

Give folks an idea as to what, how long/pages, content, the specifc bunkai etc.
Give us a price.
Take orders and do a small "desktop" run for the folks whom paid up-front.

You should be able to keep the price point, pretty low--just time and whatever supplies you need to print off the copies you need.
And kinko's is not that expensive--just make the reproduction part of the cost.

Mainly the largest expense will be time and the first art--after you have that its just a matter of hitting "print" on you computer.

Format and binding of course are another subject.

You also might float the idea past the guys that run the site.
I noticed on the opening page that they do publishing now.

I will buy a copy sight unseen, I would think that other might as well.

As a matter of fact, you have ALREADY POSTED SOME OF THEM--so folks can already see what you are doing--might be able to post some of the pages on-line in read only format to give others a better look.

I think you should look further into it.
I did battle with ignorance today.......and ignorance won. Huey.

#154882 - 06/13/05 09:03 PM Re: Oldman at Borders. [Re: cxt]
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Thanks for the ideas. One good thing is not having to hire an illustrator, designer or photographer. doing the drawings has been fun. I have to admit I'm in that (having a hard time falling asleep) period of possiblities. There are lots format possibilities.

#154883 - 06/14/05 11:41 AM Re: Oldman at Borders. [Re: oldman]
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Do it because you would enjoy it...and do it so you won't say what if. If nothing else, you tried.


#154884 - 06/14/05 12:10 PM Re: Oldman at Borders. [Re: butterfly]
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It's funny you should say that. I PMed Foolsgold the other day with some similar thoughts. I'm far from being a hedonist but as I have gotten older I find that I'm doing more and more things simply because they bring me pleasure. I'm also getting better at saying no to things I would prefer not to do. One of the joys and jobs of midlife I guess.

#154885 - 06/14/05 02:49 PM Re: Oldman at Borders. [Re: oldman]
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Registered: 05/05/05
Posts: 134
Loc: montana

You should not worry about your proficiency in the rules of the English language. These rules can be learned. What cannot be learned or taught or duplicated is VOICE -- you have oodles of Voice. BTW I think you have decent content as well!

I can answer your “why” question.
Unlike mountain climbing, great things are created because they are not there! If the idea bugs you enough, you will do this project despite whatever good reasons there are not to.

The real hard part is getting your book published and placed in Borders bookstore.

Specialty publishers, Self-publishing, Web publishing, New York Publishers will be more confusing than any bunki. (See for a good source of info)

Sure you could self publish but I think you would be selling yourself and lots of potential readers short. (You did say Borders)

I keep expecting to see your stuff in MA magazines.

Have you published your MA comics any ware other then here? If you were looking to impress an agent or publisher and at the same time create buzz for the book you should.

#154886 - 06/14/05 03:11 PM Re: Oldman at Borders. [Re: spectrum]
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Very interesting " Because it's not there". My wife's foray into publishing as a business has been very interesting. It is business pure and simple. Publishing or being published is about making profit. Publishers are motivated by the same thing other businesses are. I had thought more about self publishing than seeking a publisher. Distribution is a whole other story isn't it. I think for now this is what I will do. I will set a goal to do one illustraited application each day. Primarily for my pleasure and increasing my own understanding. As simple as the drawings are it is a challenge to accurately use anatomy and gesture to covey the techniques. This will allow me to create an archive or collection of work that could be self published or shopped around to publishers. I'd like to thank you all for taking time to share your thoughts. It has benefitted me very much.

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