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#154377 - 06/15/05 10:30 PM Re: Sankyo and the forward roll [Re: KiDoHae]
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I have to admit, the commonly seen "forward throw", can be a little awkward to execute on an "uncooperative" person, but the principle of a forward/backward takedown is there: tai-otoshi (body drop), uchimata (inner-thigh reap), o-soto gari (major outer reap), ashi harai (foot sweep), ko-soto gake (minor outer hook), kouchi gari (minor inner reap) etc.

Remember, it's the "principle", not the technique...

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#154378 - 06/15/05 10:37 PM Re: Sankyo and the forward roll [Re: KiDoHae]
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Quote:

....transitioning from that to a rear, knifehand elbow lock, then with my free hand either applying a choke or collar grap. It's a very painful place for them and a powerful position for me. Lots of options from there.




Knifehand elbow lock = Ude gatame (rear arm entanglement)?
Where your left knife hand is behind their right elbow (which is bent@90 degrees and your knifehand is at your belt level)?

A couple of nice pain compliance nerve points in the brachial plexus, carotid, and front of the shoulder are exposed.

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#154379 - 06/16/05 09:06 PM Re: Sankyo and the forward roll [Re: eyrie]
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Another aikido lesson, thanks eyrie. Got a whole bunch in this thread.

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#154380 - 06/16/05 10:10 PM Re: Sankyo and the forward roll [Re: KiDoHae]
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Sorry....I apologize if it came across as a lesson.

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#154381 - 06/17/05 01:47 PM Re: Sankyo and the forward roll [Re: eyrie]
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Quote:

Sorry....I apologize if it came across as a lesson.




There was no sarcasm intended and no appology is necessary.

My interest and my thanks are genuine.

Not being an aikidoka I do not know many of the terms for the same or what appears to be a similar technique in hapkido.

Each exchange is an opportunity to learn something.

Again, thanks.

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#154382 - 06/17/05 08:59 PM Re: Sankyo and the forward roll [Re: KiDoHae]
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Oh! I wasn't sure...

I should clarify that some of what I've shared isn't strictly aikido, although the principles are there. Most of the techniques come from judo/jujitsu, if you need to clarify what these are.

Cheers,

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#154383 - 06/19/05 10:14 PM Re: Sankyo and the forward roll [Re: eyrie]
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Smiles are good.

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