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#154270 - 06/10/05 08:34 PM Re: What kung fu weapons have you learned? [Re: DefenselessChild]
pathfinder7195 Offline
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Registered: 02/11/05
Posts: 336
Loc: T.C Michigan, U.S
Staff, broadsword, straight sword, kwan do, hook swords, sais some chain whip and monks spade.
The two I like the best is the hook swords and chain whip.

Kevin

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#154271 - 06/11/05 10:11 PM Re: What kung fu weapons have you learned? [Re: 18lohans]
Bushi_no_ki Offline
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Registered: 05/03/05
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Loc: POM, Monterey CA
I guess you could say I've "learned" the Tai Chi Sword, but that's only because it is so similar to a rapier that you would use it like a rapier. The only real adjustment to it is the exact positioning of how you hold it.

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#154272 - 06/12/05 03:25 PM Re: What kung fu weapons have you learned? [Re: 18lohans]
Fangshendo Offline
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Registered: 05/23/05
Posts: 26
Loc: Ottawa Ontario Canada
I have just passed my level 1 weapons using Cali sticks.I also study the Bo and Bokan.Knife and Tonfa to come.

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#154273 - 06/14/05 05:37 PM Re: What kung fu weapons have you learned? [Re: Fangshendo]
18lohans Offline
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I see that some of you started learning soft weapons without going through all the "hard" weapons. I kind of wanted to take a stab at the three section staff, having had only long pole, staff, spear and broadsword experience. Do you guys think its doable?

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#154274 - 06/14/05 05:53 PM Re: What kung fu weapons have you learned? [Re: 18lohans]
MAGr Offline
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I cant answer your question mate. But I have a question for you: how did you find the WC pole, there are only about 10 moves no? What is the application like? Also did you learn any drills against butterfly swords?
I ve learned the shaolin butterfly sword form but the one I want is the wing chun form, that is the dogs boll...!
Unfortunately I have about 3-4 years of training before that!

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#154275 - 06/14/05 05:59 PM Re: What kung fu weapons have you learned? [Re: MAGr]
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I found the WC pole very hard to learn, but valuable. It taught me a lot about precision and power. It was my first weapon actually. The form officially has 6 and 1/2 techniques (hence the name Luk Dim Ban Kwun, which is literally 6 1/2 pole). But I think my sifu's sifu added a hyun sao section to it. I didn't get to learn it. And I was really anxious to learn the WC knives. But no one was ready to learn them at the time, so no, I didn't learn any drills agains the knives. I have seen the sifu bring out the knives and show us some stuff though. I left my WC school when I started oging to college. One of my old kung fu brother goes to the same school as me, and he informed me taht some students are learning the knives now. But even so, the knives are kept somewhat secretive even from other students. And from waht I've heard, the knife forms vary a lot within the yip man's students.

I'd imagine the shaolin butterfly sword to be much funner. Mind telling me more about it? (I've had a pair of knives sitting around for years, just waiting for the WC form). I suppose I wouldn't mind learning a shaolin version of it for now.

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#154276 - 06/14/05 06:34 PM Re: What kung fu weapons have you learned? [Re: 18lohans]
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Ok the shaolin form:
Firstly all the moves involve low shaolin stances. You start off with knives together then you do a parry. Then there is one front kick and as you sink into the low stance you flip the swords out and seperate them whilst performing a cutting strike. After that there are a lot of slashing movements, sweeping movements, some twirling with the weapon trap and your thumb. There is also the classic shaolin pose: standing on one leg, other leg lifted so foot is touching knee, one arm by the thigh of the lifted leg, and the other arm high in the air. From that position you jump and sink into the low stance (killing your back in the process). The shaolin one looks really flashy but has little practical value, its more wushu if you know what I mean.
Its harder than the WC one in the sense that its more physical and there are more moves but its easier than the WC in a more fundamental sense.
The WC one is easier to learn and harder to master, if that makes sense, and its also more practical in terms of using an actual live blade.
Also, the transitionary moves are inspired and positioning is paramount. I ve seen it performed by my sifu and it just looks more controlled than the shaolin one.

Having said that, the shaolin form is brilliant for being able to control your movements and energy because there are a lot of wide moves and stances where you have to pause.

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#154277 - 06/14/05 07:21 PM Re: What kung fu weapons have you learned? [Re: MAGr]
18lohans Offline
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Sounds interesting. And being a practicioner of both Shaolin and WC, I really know what you mean by physically demanding/applicable. Mind if I ask how you learned the Shaolin set?

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#154278 - 06/14/05 07:50 PM Re: What kung fu weapons have you learned? [Re: 18lohans]
MAGr Offline
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Registered: 04/11/05
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Loc: London, home: Athens
from a book! lol
Just joking!
My sifu taught me, he said that he would teach me the shaolin form, but not the wing chun form because the WC is an extention of the empty hands form and without mastering the one you wont get the benefits of the other.

Thanks for the "melting pot" reply, very informative! I will look into what you suggested, I would love to find out about other kung fu styles. Slowly but surely!

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#154279 - 06/23/05 06:44 PM Re: What kung fu weapons have you learned? [Re: MAGr]
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Registered: 01/28/05
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Loc: UT
Broadsword/spear....most of my chinese weapons training has focused there. Learn a broadsword vs spear form..and other forms and tech.---I'm hoping to learn the Monk spade....that looks crazy...I've also learned the long staff.

Maybe not chinese but I've also worked with nunchaku and sais.
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