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any ideas?

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Go and have a few treatments and actually experience the subject matter....

Without a cultural context, it's going to be difficult to understand the cosmological references in the Nei Jing, which also has to be read in conjunction with the Nan Jing (Classic of Difficulties).

As far as ideas go...

oooh, difficult cosmological references, now I'm even more interested in reading it.

gavin, perhaps next time I have a nusance pain that doesn't disappear on it own with rest, stretching and asprin. I might even have the book read by then.

thanks everyone.

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gavin, perhaps next time I have a nusance pain that doesn't disappear on it own with rest, stretching and asprin. I might even have the book read by then.

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Why don't you live a little and actually have a treatment while you're feeling OK, but you're probably too pig headed to acknowledge any beneifts any how... My point being you're continuing to ask about things that need to be experienced. It's like asking ton's of questions about MA's and having an opinion without ever actually going to a lesson... something you've trashed people over in the past. If you're really that interested in TCM, go and experience first hand. You're the TCM/MWM equavilant of a Keyboard Combantant. So, rather than recomend that you find an instructor, I recomend you find a good therapist (in more ways than one!) !

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Gavin, you mentioned extended meridians. Could you describe them? Is there any useful info on it on the net?

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Kosh, I don't really know of anything that good on the net. The extended meridian system was developed by a guy called Shizuto Masunaga. They've only really been hinted at on my course. They're not on the syllabus until the next of my course.

I take it from the insults you aren't the intellectually curious type. I wonder if that runs as a common trait.

I haven't tried hinduism either, am I not allowed to read about it until I convert? how about leaning how tricks are performed before paying $50 to see them performed by a magician?

this thread is as dead as your curiousity.

Ok, ladies. Enough purse-slapping for now.

Actually Ed I found it quite insulting that you seem to think that we are all sheep who follow these things out of faith and are too stupid to question the world around us. You've been given about 10 pages of peoples experience and thats about the best you're going to get. I was a total skeptic, but in order to qualify my opinion I decided to actually go to people who believed. I'm a firm believer of "He who feels it, knows it!". Hence my analogy of going a MA instructor to find out about M.A's and going to a TCM therapist of some discipline to actually experience what were talking about... then atleast you'll be on the road to having a qualified opinion rather than one best on purely reading it. I could read a description of a gyakazuki and a completely right it off based purely on my experiences or lack thereof, however I'd only take feeling one gyakazuki to convince me. As I side, "He who feels it, knows it".

This thread is dead... but my curosity isn't... neither is my open mind.