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#152243 - 06/16/05 12:44 AM Re: The Green Dragon Society Website [Re: chitaochuan]
laf7773 Offline
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Watch the language.
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#152244 - 06/16/05 01:28 AM Re: The Green Dragon Society Website [Re: Kempoman]
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"Chi-Tao Ch'uan is the closest to Pa-Kua. Outwardly they are both the same, but inwardly they are different."-GDS website

So it's bagua, whats so secret about that?
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#152245 - 06/16/05 10:27 AM Re: The Green Dragon Society Website [Re: chitaochuan]
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I won't start a argument on this forum with someone as smart as KEMPOMAN.





My intelligence itself is a subject of much debate.



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Yes there are blood matches.





Well...then please tell us about them. Perhaps it is something as simple as whoever bleeds first loses or wins.


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No GREEN DRAGON SOCIETY is not a cult.




Then why do you come out like I have attacked you personally or you martial art directly. I have offered a critque of the information on the website, nothing more.


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NO you don't have to beg or grovel for instruction.





Uh excuse me but..

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Snipped from the Green Dragon Society Website

A person has to call and go for an interview before a Master. If accepted, he is on probationary study. After his first Rank Test, he is accepted as a student on Probation, which lasts one to three years. After the student grades are passed, he must fight to be admitted into the Third Inner Circle of the "Temple." If he can pass through this array (he has until midnight, from dawn, and can try over and over as long as he can stand up)... he receives the first rank. He is trusted as a loyal, hardworking student, though he may be the equivalent of a Black Belt in Karate!!!!!!!!! Then he spends five to seven years in another type of Probation, this is to prove to a particular Master that he is worthy of the Higher or Internal Arts. While he may be trusted, honest, and hardworking, he must learn, appreciate, and sacrifice much, in order to make a Master feel like spending his precious time (taken from the Master's own self-developments) to teach this person.




...I beg to differ.


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KEMPOMAN you insult me and my art and then you want me to explain it to you.




No if you actually read the initial post it says...

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Now remember chitaochuan this is not an attack on you personally, but rather a critique of the information and content of the website that you invited us to view.




...and yes I would like you to explain it to me. I've been at this for more than thirty years and I find it interesting to learn of other arts.


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You have it all analized and you are free to belive what you want.




I take it you actually mean analyzed (in the vein of analysis) and not analized which I guess would mean that I am being an, oh wait perhaps you did mean analized.

I believe that the website is full of hype and hoopla. I know nothing of the style. I am simply stating my opinion of the information on the site. It is poorly written and contains too much hyperbole for my taste (but most MA websites do these days).

I really would like to know more about the style.


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Have a nice day





You too, and I mean that. Please consider having an open exchange of information with me. I promise to be nice.

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#152246 - 06/16/05 10:45 AM Re: The Green Dragon Society Website [Re: Kempoman]
MAGr Offline
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Kempoman, you are being too nice.
No you are not critisizing the art, that much is clear. But what you said/implied before about the school is correct!
Too much hoop-la, how do you (royal you) expect to take this school seriously when they say things like
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Each phase is more deadly and secret than the last one.



Gimme a break!
Kung fu seccrets have being revealed a long time ago, it sounds like something that should be advertised on telemarketing to me! It doesnt mean it doesnt work, it just looks cheap and full of fabricated hype!

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#152247 - 06/16/05 10:55 AM Re: The Green Dragon Society Website [Re: MAGr]
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On the TKD forum there is a lad who asks "Which MA's are designed to kill?". He got flammed to hell but if this site is as you say then this is the kind of thing which encourages the idea. I'm suspect about anything which has to advertise itself on killing.
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#152248 - 06/17/05 11:39 AM Re: The Green Dragon Society Website [Re: trevek]
JohnL Offline
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I'll admit that I don't often visit this section of the forum as I don't practice a chinese MA, however I dropped in out of curiosty this morning.

However, I don't need to have any experience of Chinese MA's to recognise complete crap when I see it.

Whoever put this site together has had a bit too much of the Waccy Baccy folks. And whoever is recommending that this site is of any value needs to go see a good shrink. Failing that I've got a whole load of bright pink squirrels I'd like to sell you if you're that gullible.
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#152249 - 06/17/05 12:45 PM Re: The Green Dragon Society Website [Re: JohnL]
MattJ Offline
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PINK SQUIRRELS? REALLY?!?!?!

*RUNS to find checkbook*
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#152250 - 06/17/05 12:49 PM Re: The Green Dragon Society Website [Re: JohnL]
RazorFoot Offline
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I do find the claims, method of entry, and the information on the webpage as highly unrealistic. I try not to knock any MA because normally, every Art has something beneficial to offer but in this case, I am at a loss.
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#152251 - 06/17/05 01:04 PM Re: The Green Dragon Society Website [Re: RazorFoot]
butterfly Offline
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Registered: 08/25/04
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Let's just paraphrase George Orwell in Animal Farm:

Some are more deserving of condemnation that others.

-B

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#152252 - 07/16/05 08:50 PM Re: The Green Dragon Society Website [Re: chitaochuan]
Tienying Offline
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I won't start a argument on this forum with someone as smart as KEMPOMAN.Yes there are blood matches. No GREEN DRAGON SOCIETY is not a cult. NO you don't have to beg or grovel for instruction. KEMPOMAM you insult me and my art and then you want me to explain it to you.You have it all analized and you are free to belive what you want.Oh SANCHIN31 maybe you should reread that funny bs again seeing you got your ass whipped with the system you study.

Have a nice day




Well, first of all i would like to apologize for the language utilized herein. I came across this and was abit upset myself over the topic and reactions. But i offer this. I will humbly check this thread and try to bridge any misunderstandings. I only ask for the benefit of respectful conversation.

I have studied Wu Ch'uan Chi tao since 1994 and am currently a Instructor. I assure you that the art has a long US history and I will link you to other discussions found elsewhere ot demostrate it.

Of course there is the discussion of the site design. I do not maintain it, but I would say that one should read it again and understand that many of the items described there have in fact happened since about 1959. the following link is to be found on the bullshido website. I only ask that you read the moderators post. With this posted, I am humbly waiting to try to answer the questions I can.

http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthre...+dragon+society


Edited by Tienying (07/16/05 08:53 PM)
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