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#150627 - 05/29/05 10:35 PM Daily Zen: New Week
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(Helping out Joel, whois gone for a day or two. Day 8 Pickle week, or day 1...sorry if I am off.)

To be uncertain is to be uncomfortable,
but to be certain is to be ridiculous.

Chinese proverb

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#150628 - 05/29/05 10:42 PM Re: Daily Zen: New Week [Re: harlan]
harlan Offline
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I'll jump in first.

At my desk, posted above my computer, I have had a reminder to myself for years. "Don't get comfortable." To me, it is a warning that the person who gets comfortable, in the chair, in the job, in the life...is one who has grown roots. One should be like Fudoshin...constantly balancing on the ball.

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#150629 - 05/30/05 12:16 AM Re: Daily Zen: New Week [Re: harlan]
Kintama Offline
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Quote:

To be uncertain is to be uncomfortable,
but to be certain is to be ridiculous.





Using strict logic rules, that statement can be used to form the concluding truism:
To be comfortable is rediculous.

I disagree with this philosophy. There are things that I am certain about which give me comfort. I am certain I have control over the decisions I make during my life. I am certain that there is no eternal life other than that which continues thru my children, loved ones and strangers I have helped - this gives me comfort equal to or greater than any hope faith. I am certain that I don't know everything, and that gives me tremendous comfort knowing there is always more which allows me to adapt my certainties.

This proverb is simply too absolute for it to be true for me. There are already too many absolutes in the world...of this, I am certain and uncomfortable.

p.s. often times I can be comfortably uncertain and just plain rediculous all at once.

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#150630 - 05/30/05 12:16 AM Re: Daily Zen: New Week [Re: harlan]
ButterflyPalm Offline
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Could you put in the chinese version? this proverb do not ring a bell.

My reply is with the following English one, which in a certain context is applicable to the MA.

'Ignorance is bliss,
A little knowledge is dangerous'

The above is not 'Zenny' enough?

Sorry, my chair seems rather uncomfortable this morning.

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#150631 - 05/30/05 12:23 AM Re: Daily Zen: New Week [Re: harlan]
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Uncertainty can be an uncomfortable feeling, but it is the uncomfortableness that makes us feel alive. 100% certainty in life is a silly notion to entertain. The only certainties in life are death and taxes.

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#150632 - 05/30/05 12:40 AM Re: Daily Zen: New Week [Re: eyrie]
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Quote:

Uncertainty can be an uncomfortable feeling, but it is the uncomfortableness that makes us feel alive. 100% certainty in life is a silly notion to entertain. The only certainties in life are death and taxes.




well if the zen part of this forum is here even half of that statement is in question. uncomfortable? I know is the most dangerous thing you can say. do not close the door on all possibilities. 2+2=4 you only KNOW the sign post.



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#150633 - 05/30/05 02:55 AM Re: Daily Zen: New Week [Re: wolfscalissi]
eyrie Offline
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I know... I DON'T know :P

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#150634 - 05/30/05 09:02 AM Re: Daily Zen: New Week Note [Re: harlan]
harlan Offline
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The quote comes from the Daily Zen Calender, is written in English (no chinese version included), and seems to be like many of the sayings....not in the zen tradition. Guess you have to be zen to appreciate it.

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#150635 - 05/30/05 10:24 AM Re: Daily Zen: New Week [Re: harlan]
nenipp Offline
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I'm uncertain but not uncomfortable,
I am certainly rediculous..

..your proverb may be chinese, but is it zen?

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#150636 - 05/30/05 11:13 AM Re: Daily Zen: New Week [Re: nenipp]
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To be uncomfortable with uncertainty ridiculous is,
Certain of this I am.

Thrive on the unexpected we do, brings out our true nature it does.
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